Then there are how many hundreds of millions of phenotypes are there?
Woo, you've hard swerved lanes from "there isn't one at all!" to "there are so many its useless!"
And to think you go on to accuse me of making up arguments when mine doesn't work. That's some top tier projection my lad.
Come on, complete your bingo card and accuse me of "bad faith" next. It would be extra spicy considering you've multiple times in just this short interaction taken an absolutely retarded reading of what I said and then made up your own version of it just to take it down.
Such as getting super offended that I called you a Jew, something I never did, because you misread a sentence incredibly badly in your rush to pull out a victim card.
Woo, you've hard swerved lanes from "there isn't one at all!" to "there are so many its useless!"
That's not a hard swerve, it's demonstrating to you that you don't know what a human phenotype is. Normally, when I have an argument with genuine genetic determist white nationalists, they will give me a fixed number, like 16. Not "infinite". That's because if they want to work off of real human biological stratas, you're not going to have an infinite number. A biological distinction is not infinitely variable. Sex and gender work the same way. There's 2 sexes. However, the moment someone tells you that there are infinitely many genders, they've just identified that they are not biological categories in gender, they've asserted it's a fully social construct. Human phenotypes are not in
None that are "jewish", and instead one that has to be "Ashkenazi", which normally doesn't fit either, and is really just "Semitic", and Semitic peoples aren't inherently jewish.
And that's the point. When it comes to official human phenotypes which are recognized in genetics, there isn't one that's jewish. This is because the best anyone can argue is that it is a religion, and it contains several ethnic groups. And once again, those ethnic groups vary across the actual phenotypes.
The reason there is no jewish, muslim, christian, athiest, or hindi phenotype is because that is a misunderstanding of genetic classification; because religion isn't genetic. Phenotypes are not homogenous cultural or social groups.
Such as getting super offended that I called you a Jew, something I never did, because you misread a sentence incredibly badly in your rush to pull out a victim card.
"I'm not opposed to that as most actual practicing religious Jews seem to be alright people, but its amazing how much extra effort and loops you'll tie yourselves in to pretend there isn't an issue to be had."
Not major offense, just a standard argument tactic used by most jew haters because all they can see is: "jews are an enemy race". Therefore, if I fall towards the "enemy" section of their Schmittian Friend-Enemy Distinction, then I must be jewish.
Normally, when I have an argument with genuine genetic determist white nationalists
So you are just pulling out arguments based on cliches and stereotypes about what you think I am, and then hoping they will fit. No wonder your comprehension sucks, you aren't even bothering to engage. Just copy pasting yourself from your head and calling it a day.
And to think you accuse me of being a bad faith arguer.
but its amazing how much extra effort and loops you'll tie yourselves in to pretend there isn't an issue to be had
"You will tie yourselves in." As in you people trying to deny there is an issue will tie yourselves in knots trying to argue in circles to pretend there is no, none nada issues at all with anything ever. If I was going to call you a Jew, I wouldn't do it subtly with implication. Especially if I was some dreaded anti-semite you need to rush to defeat.
Again, try actually stopping and reading what's being said instead of getting offended over what you perceive to be a fight with someone you've already constructed in your head. I truly don't give a shit about Jews or their endless battles with anti-semites. I just find the pro-semite arguers to be incredibly bad at their job to a point where its insulting to even read.
And to think you accuse me of being a bad faith arguer.
It's because you are. You didn't like that I explicitly stated that phenotypes can't define a homogenous social group. You rejected that and asserted that there would have to be a phenotype because a phenotype is as simple as the direction of hair on your head. This isn't how geneticists typically categorize human phenotype groups, nor is it evidence of a jewish phenotype. You even claimed I was arguing that no genetic difference exist between people. Then you turned around and claimed that I had changed by position from saying that a jewish phenotype existed to saying that I claimed it had to. Now you're claiming that I'm arguing against a different position.
My position has never changed: there is no such thing as a jewish phenotype.
What sucks is that even with Arch, who is explicitly bad faith but good in quality, I can still get some genuine positions out of him. It's not that you're advocating psuedo-scientific racial theories that's most annoying; it's that you are arguing like the absolute worst of them, and I know you're actually better than that.
I'm telling you that the white nationalists have a better grasp of genetics than what you are asserting, that's why your claim is silly: their assertions are still retarded, and yours is even less informed than theirs.
I just find the pro-semite arguers to be incredibly bad at their job to a point where its insulting to even read.
Yeah? And who's that? It can't possibly be the anti-theist, minarchist, anti-Zionist, that specifically demands that all foreign aid to Israel be halted, and that non-practicing jews are just lying for identity points, and shouldn't be allowed "The Right of Return".
My position has never changed: there is no such thing as a jewish phenotype.
Yes I'm sure that is the position that you hold. You present this by saying 5 paragraphs worth of circular garbage to say "nu uh, that definition is wrong!" and arguing in circles with people you've already admitted you made up based on stereotypes.
I showed you a literal definition of a word, and you didn't like that. Nothing either of us has said from that point onward has mattered, which is why I've only for the most part spoken directly to you instead of engaging with your arguments. But good on the fictional me you are battling with, he is lobbing all sorts of accusations at you.
And here I am only managing to call you a donkey.
I assume you mean Jester.
Well yes he was actually retarded, well done clearing that low bar by listing all the super cool labels you gave yourself.
Woo, you've hard swerved lanes from "there isn't one at all!" to "there are so many its useless!"
And to think you go on to accuse me of making up arguments when mine doesn't work. That's some top tier projection my lad.
Come on, complete your bingo card and accuse me of "bad faith" next. It would be extra spicy considering you've multiple times in just this short interaction taken an absolutely retarded reading of what I said and then made up your own version of it just to take it down.
Such as getting super offended that I called you a Jew, something I never did, because you misread a sentence incredibly badly in your rush to pull out a victim card.
That's not a hard swerve, it's demonstrating to you that you don't know what a human phenotype is. Normally, when I have an argument with genuine genetic determist white nationalists, they will give me a fixed number, like 16. Not "infinite". That's because if they want to work off of real human biological stratas, you're not going to have an infinite number. A biological distinction is not infinitely variable. Sex and gender work the same way. There's 2 sexes. However, the moment someone tells you that there are infinitely many genders, they've just identified that they are not biological categories in gender, they've asserted it's a fully social construct. Human phenotypes are not in
None that are "jewish", and instead one that has to be "Ashkenazi", which normally doesn't fit either, and is really just "Semitic", and Semitic peoples aren't inherently jewish.
And that's the point. When it comes to official human phenotypes which are recognized in genetics, there isn't one that's jewish. This is because the best anyone can argue is that it is a religion, and it contains several ethnic groups. And once again, those ethnic groups vary across the actual phenotypes.
The reason there is no jewish, muslim, christian, athiest, or hindi phenotype is because that is a misunderstanding of genetic classification; because religion isn't genetic. Phenotypes are not homogenous cultural or social groups.
"I'm not opposed to that as most actual practicing religious Jews seem to be alright people, but its amazing how much extra effort and loops you'll tie yourselves in to pretend there isn't an issue to be had."
Not major offense, just a standard argument tactic used by most jew haters because all they can see is: "jews are an enemy race". Therefore, if I fall towards the "enemy" section of their Schmittian Friend-Enemy Distinction, then I must be jewish.
So you are just pulling out arguments based on cliches and stereotypes about what you think I am, and then hoping they will fit. No wonder your comprehension sucks, you aren't even bothering to engage. Just copy pasting yourself from your head and calling it a day.
And to think you accuse me of being a bad faith arguer.
"You will tie yourselves in." As in you people trying to deny there is an issue will tie yourselves in knots trying to argue in circles to pretend there is no, none nada issues at all with anything ever. If I was going to call you a Jew, I wouldn't do it subtly with implication. Especially if I was some dreaded anti-semite you need to rush to defeat.
Again, try actually stopping and reading what's being said instead of getting offended over what you perceive to be a fight with someone you've already constructed in your head. I truly don't give a shit about Jews or their endless battles with anti-semites. I just find the pro-semite arguers to be incredibly bad at their job to a point where its insulting to even read.
It's because you are. You didn't like that I explicitly stated that phenotypes can't define a homogenous social group. You rejected that and asserted that there would have to be a phenotype because a phenotype is as simple as the direction of hair on your head. This isn't how geneticists typically categorize human phenotype groups, nor is it evidence of a jewish phenotype. You even claimed I was arguing that no genetic difference exist between people. Then you turned around and claimed that I had changed by position from saying that a jewish phenotype existed to saying that I claimed it had to. Now you're claiming that I'm arguing against a different position.
My position has never changed: there is no such thing as a jewish phenotype.
What sucks is that even with Arch, who is explicitly bad faith but good in quality, I can still get some genuine positions out of him. It's not that you're advocating psuedo-scientific racial theories that's most annoying; it's that you are arguing like the absolute worst of them, and I know you're actually better than that.
I'm telling you that the white nationalists have a better grasp of genetics than what you are asserting, that's why your claim is silly: their assertions are still retarded, and yours is even less informed than theirs.
Yeah? And who's that? It can't possibly be the anti-theist, minarchist, anti-Zionist, that specifically demands that all foreign aid to Israel be halted, and that non-practicing jews are just lying for identity points, and shouldn't be allowed "The Right of Return".
I assume you mean Jester.
Yes I'm sure that is the position that you hold. You present this by saying 5 paragraphs worth of circular garbage to say "nu uh, that definition is wrong!" and arguing in circles with people you've already admitted you made up based on stereotypes.
I showed you a literal definition of a word, and you didn't like that. Nothing either of us has said from that point onward has mattered, which is why I've only for the most part spoken directly to you instead of engaging with your arguments. But good on the fictional me you are battling with, he is lobbing all sorts of accusations at you.
And here I am only managing to call you a donkey.
Well yes he was actually retarded, well done clearing that low bar by listing all the super cool labels you gave yourself.