They will only piss off if made to piss off by force of arms.
That's called the police.
What we ought to be discussing at this point is mass repatriation
Which is to be preformed by the police. However, encouraging self-deportation is far more reasonable. For example, even though Trump was engaged in some of the largest numbers of deportations, the actual largest scale emigration out of the US takes place during recessions.
Stop giving money to foreigners, or businesses that hire them, and suddenly illegal immigration will collapse.
The silly truth is, most illegals aren't trying to engage in colonization. They just don't give a shit about anyone, are looking for money, and are joining colonies. Get rid of the shit that keeps them here, and they'll leave as easily as they came.
I'll agree that creating a system of incentives where the foreigners all go "huh, I'm actually better off back home" is important and effective to a degree. However the problem has progressed far enough that I don't think that approach along will be sufficient.
We can at least agree that a good start would be to stop giving them money and opportunities here. For me though, I'm frankly at the point where I want to rescind opportunities for all foreigners regardless of how they ended up here or how many generations their families have been here.
I disagree with how black-pilled you are with how committed they are. It's kind of the "silver lining" of having such a retarded "every warm body" policy of luring gibs goblins. They are easily lured away. They don't give a shit about anything. You could promise them PS4's and they'd be out the door. Hell, if you offered every illegal immigrant a car, you'd probably fucking save money in the long run.
As for the ones that are, you know, 3rd generation identity conflict ones; those are easy too. They are going to either go full one way, or full the other. They'll abandon the way of the old country, or decide that they should stay "true to their self" and "be with their people", and then proceed to fuck off.
I think mass repatriation honestly doesn't have to be that forceful. Most of the problems aren't even coming from the migrants. It's coming from the bureaucracy and the press screaming at the top of their lungs every time a single rapist is deported.
On top of that, if we localize it to purging specific communities at a time, you'll get a lot of support from the people who are left locally. This way, you could actually prioritize targets politically for enforcement if the bureaucrats are fighting you on a larger scale. That's what happened with Koch Foods Inc, when Trump deported, like 300 illegal factory workers. The next day job flyers went out in the local community, crime dropped, wages increased, and both the poor whites and poor blacks in the community started raving about how great it was that Trump through out the illegals.
Whether he does it or not is irrelevant for our discussion, it's just that the policy of local mass removals absolutely works, and encourages further self-deportations. Still, you gotta start arresting employers. That shit can't keep being an easy avenue in.
As for the ones that are, you know, 3rd generation identity conflict ones; those are easy too. They are going to either go full one way, or full the other. They'll abandon the way of the old country, or decide that they should stay "true to their self" and "be with their people", and then proceed to fuck off.
I have seen that exact trend being cited as one of the reasons that the Hispanic population has been taking such a hard turn toward voting Republican in more recent elections. A lot of them are starting to identify not as their nation of origin (Mexican, Guatemalan, Salvadorian, etc) beyond a cultural heritage like the Germans and Italians before them. Instead, they are identifying as American, and starting to act American in terms of their beliefs and attitudes. Which is then causing them to shift their political leanings to match the new identity.
It wouldn't surprise me. By the 5th generation, the immigrants are typically fully Americanized (unless something weird like intentional isolationism is taking place, or that 3rd generation went hard 'home-country', but never left America.)
That 3rd generation is really the danger point, and frankly, I'd honestly say we should target them the most with integration efforts. The pioneer generation (whom is voluntary) is normally very pro American. The 2nd generation is American leaning, but typically just has a "I'm both" kind of mentality. The 3rd generation is always the one to chose: full MAGA or full ISIS. It seems like it's the last generation before they become fully integrated, and they either have to abandon the old ways, or push them quite hard in their narrative.
The problem with mass migrants is that a lot of these are not going to have the 'self-selected 1st generation pioneer' status. That's very bad. That's what grounds the 2nd and 3rd generation to their identity as Americans. If you just pull random people into the first generation, there's no way they are going to properly integrate. The only people you want migrating to your country is the ones already dreaming about it, probably have already visited it, and want to renounce their citizenship. The last thing you want is Niko Bellic.
That's called the police.
Which is to be preformed by the police. However, encouraging self-deportation is far more reasonable. For example, even though Trump was engaged in some of the largest numbers of deportations, the actual largest scale emigration out of the US takes place during recessions.
Stop giving money to foreigners, or businesses that hire them, and suddenly illegal immigration will collapse.
The silly truth is, most illegals aren't trying to engage in colonization. They just don't give a shit about anyone, are looking for money, and are joining colonies. Get rid of the shit that keeps them here, and they'll leave as easily as they came.
I'll agree that creating a system of incentives where the foreigners all go "huh, I'm actually better off back home" is important and effective to a degree. However the problem has progressed far enough that I don't think that approach along will be sufficient.
We can at least agree that a good start would be to stop giving them money and opportunities here. For me though, I'm frankly at the point where I want to rescind opportunities for all foreigners regardless of how they ended up here or how many generations their families have been here.
I disagree with how black-pilled you are with how committed they are. It's kind of the "silver lining" of having such a retarded "every warm body" policy of luring gibs goblins. They are easily lured away. They don't give a shit about anything. You could promise them PS4's and they'd be out the door. Hell, if you offered every illegal immigrant a car, you'd probably fucking save money in the long run.
As for the ones that are, you know, 3rd generation identity conflict ones; those are easy too. They are going to either go full one way, or full the other. They'll abandon the way of the old country, or decide that they should stay "true to their self" and "be with their people", and then proceed to fuck off.
I think mass repatriation honestly doesn't have to be that forceful. Most of the problems aren't even coming from the migrants. It's coming from the bureaucracy and the press screaming at the top of their lungs every time a single rapist is deported.
On top of that, if we localize it to purging specific communities at a time, you'll get a lot of support from the people who are left locally. This way, you could actually prioritize targets politically for enforcement if the bureaucrats are fighting you on a larger scale. That's what happened with Koch Foods Inc, when Trump deported, like 300 illegal factory workers. The next day job flyers went out in the local community, crime dropped, wages increased, and both the poor whites and poor blacks in the community started raving about how great it was that Trump through out the illegals.
Whether he does it or not is irrelevant for our discussion, it's just that the policy of local mass removals absolutely works, and encourages further self-deportations. Still, you gotta start arresting employers. That shit can't keep being an easy avenue in.
I have seen that exact trend being cited as one of the reasons that the Hispanic population has been taking such a hard turn toward voting Republican in more recent elections. A lot of them are starting to identify not as their nation of origin (Mexican, Guatemalan, Salvadorian, etc) beyond a cultural heritage like the Germans and Italians before them. Instead, they are identifying as American, and starting to act American in terms of their beliefs and attitudes. Which is then causing them to shift their political leanings to match the new identity.
It wouldn't surprise me. By the 5th generation, the immigrants are typically fully Americanized (unless something weird like intentional isolationism is taking place, or that 3rd generation went hard 'home-country', but never left America.)
That 3rd generation is really the danger point, and frankly, I'd honestly say we should target them the most with integration efforts. The pioneer generation (whom is voluntary) is normally very pro American. The 2nd generation is American leaning, but typically just has a "I'm both" kind of mentality. The 3rd generation is always the one to chose: full MAGA or full ISIS. It seems like it's the last generation before they become fully integrated, and they either have to abandon the old ways, or push them quite hard in their narrative.
The problem with mass migrants is that a lot of these are not going to have the 'self-selected 1st generation pioneer' status. That's very bad. That's what grounds the 2nd and 3rd generation to their identity as Americans. If you just pull random people into the first generation, there's no way they are going to properly integrate. The only people you want migrating to your country is the ones already dreaming about it, probably have already visited it, and want to renounce their citizenship. The last thing you want is Niko Bellic.