So because I describe Queers as "Sex Communists" (which they are) instead of "Leftists"
No, I decided that because you swapped one for the other when called out on how you blame everything on a secret cabal, despite them not being interchangeable, you were betraying your lack of actual concrete thought. Probably because you just distill everything down to "ITS THE COMMIES."
My response stopped there, because if that's the level of speech you are bringing to the party, you aren't capable of any of the solutions you propose in terms of optics or de-brainwashing cultists. Which in turn makes it nothing but self fellating philosophizing.
Heck, by merely engaging with you here, I feel ever so slightly more secure in my "insane perspective" as you call it. So you are doing great at this.
I don't know why you're lying about me again. I've already told you that none of this is a secret cabal. Philosophies aren't secret cabals. The WEF isn't a secret cabal. The Fabian Society is not a secret cabal. Queer Theory is not a secret cabal.
My response stopped there, because if that's the level of speech you are bringing to the party, you aren't capable of any of the solutions you propose in terms of optics or de-brainwashing cultists. Which in turn makes it nothing but self fellating philosophizing.
So, because you're a lunatic that wants to hurt, imprison, or kill innocent people; and because you're not willing to engage honestly; I'm incapable of helping others thereby justifying your position of violence against the innocent.
Yeah, no.
Again, innocent people have a right to defend themselves against your aggression.
I've already told you that none of this is a secret cabal
Of course, The Jews are doing it out in the open and constantly talk about them doing it! The Stormfags are right! They have all these big organizations and the sheeple just choose not to see it!
You got me, I shouldn't have thrown the word secret in there because it wasn't correct. It was reflexive when typing the word cabal, so my apologies. Nothing else about that point has changed by removing the superfluous word, however.
Especially as we have moved from a specific brand of Communists, to Leftists as a whole to a bunch of various groups and ideologies that are Communist in some manner. I don't know how you consider this helping your case, because you are just showing the same thing again. "Everyone I don't like is the exact same Real Evil™."
I'm incapable of helping others thereby justifying your position of violence against the innocent.
No, nothing about my position or perspective is part of this conclusion. Its simply reacting to your poor charisma and word skills, despite claiming the need for de-programming huge swaths of the population from a cult they live in. Something that requires absurdly high levels in those specific categories to even being to accomplish.
I merely threw in a little mockery at the end there, that came after my actual point, to show an example of that failing. Because you'll need to budge people a lot more committed than I to accomplish what you consider a "solution."
Again, innocent people have a right to defend themselves against your aggression.
I don't know why you keep repeating this as if it never occurred to me. Yes, actions have consequences and proper reactions. One of those is the usage of their both human and American right to bear arms and defend themselves. I've been beaten heavily for my beliefs in the past (though anti-feminist ones, my actual true ideological passion), I don't live in terror of it.
That's the fun part about having an idea based on action instead of constantly sweating in worry about "muh optics" and inaction. You can follow a chain of obvious branches off your tree, instead of constantly sitting around waiting for a random event to react to.
Especially as we have moved from a specific brand of Communists, to Leftists as a whole to a bunch of various groups and ideologies that are Communist in some manner. I don't know how you consider this helping your case, because you are just showing the same thing again.
You are being intentionally dishonest about my position, and you have, at no point, asked me to explain what the difference is between a Leftist, a Marxist, a Communist, a Bolshevik, or a Queer. You have decided to assume that I use each of them interchangeably, and that I'm not being intentionally reductive with the term "Sex Communist" as a way of simplistically explaining an underlying principle of "A Neo-Marxist metanarrative focusing on political revolution against the sex binary and sex roles in society as a mechanism to undermine the family, such that it can destroy Capitalism".
You don't want to understand what I'm saying, because you've already made up your mind about what I'm saying, no matter how many times I tell you the same thing in different ways. A Trotskist and a Titoist are both Leftists. They are not totally unrelated ideologies that have no similar philosophy, nor are they a cabal of 3 or 5 conspirators.
No, nothing about my position or perspective is part of this conclusion.
It's the first thing you did. You decided that guilt by association was enough justification to punish people who had committed no crimes, and people who had committed crimes equally. That is abominable. Your complaint about being unable to de-program people because they are part of a cult (or are victimized by a cult) is why you justified this level of ruthless violence.
"... this ... should serve as a reminder that we will never be able to live in a "harmonious" society with them. .... this is the type of activists and activities even the "good, based gays" condone through silent inaction, and gleefully feast upon the spoils of if they win regardless."
So long as you refuse to recognize a distinction between a friendly gay neighbor who has wronged no one, and a Queer Activist who wants to fuck your kids; it is inevitable that you will intentionally target your innocent neighbors. It is also inevitable that you will extend that guilt by association to anyone who didn't support your aggression in the first place (people like me). Hence why we get to this point:
Its simply reacting to your poor charisma and word skills, despite claiming the need for de-programming huge swaths of the population from a cult they live in
I'm not trying to de-convert a caricature of yourself. I'm not de-converting anyone who's already decided that I'm on the enemy side of the friend-enemy distinction; and that anti-moral actions against me are categorical imperatives. Once you've decided to cross that Rubicon, words are not what anyone else should be using when you peruse them. All I'm doing is explaining my position to you, and that you probably shouldn't pursue your guilt-by-association strategy. You're free to take it or leave it. I'm not trying to persuade you, because you've made it clear that there is no reason for it. It's more of a "Bold strategy, Cotton".
For example, I have Leftists in my family. Unlike you, I won't be putting bullets in them for giving credence to Leftist talking points. Instead, I focus on maintaining healthy familial bonds, refuse to let political grievance outweigh those bonds of obligation, and make honest debate possible in such a way that they are safe to reveal their own reactionary interpretations of the discrepancies between Leftist meta-narratives and real world experiences. I am particularly doing this, not for my anti-Communist crusade, but because I don't want their kids getting their genitals mutilated.
Deconversion from cults and individuation are not things that can be done in a single internet argument. Those things must be done in intimate situations among friends and confidants. It is important to actually help people who are burned walk away from that cult, and then help them to individuate, in order for any cultural progress to be made. As I said before, attacking the escaped victims only drives them back to the cult, which re-enforces the cult's narrative about society, and strengthens it.
asked me to explain what the difference is between a Leftist, a Marxist, a Communist, a Bolshevik, or a Queer.
Didn't need to. I pointed out you were using Communist for everything, so you immediately switched to Leftist in the next part. Its a sad little backpedal you did when called out, that you are now ranting with as many words as possible to try and obfuscate being called on.
No, nothing about my position or perspective is part of this conclusion.
When I said this sentence, I meant nothing about my particular perspective was factored into saying you weren't capable of meeting your own solution's needs in terms of deprogramming a cultist.
For someone whining a lot about my so called inability to ask or understand your point, you certainly are wildly misunderstanding mine.
I'm not trying to de-convert a caricature of yourself.
You are really caught up on that little bit of mockery I threw in aren't you? I suppose when you believe yourself to have all the answers and world figured out, narcissism and its fragility comes with the territory.
For example, I have Leftists in my family.
Hey, so do I! In fact, my adult daughter is a lesbian ace! My best friend for my entire life is a hardline anti-Christian Bidenbro! Fit that into your paradigm of what you believe I believe. Because its getting funnier to watch you write an ideological perspective for me.
Here I'll even give you a hint. At no point did I say anyone was forever tainted, almost like I have a huge belief in repentance being a centerpiece of all society.
No, I decided that because you swapped one for the other when called out on how you blame everything on a secret cabal, despite them not being interchangeable, you were betraying your lack of actual concrete thought. Probably because you just distill everything down to "ITS THE COMMIES."
My response stopped there, because if that's the level of speech you are bringing to the party, you aren't capable of any of the solutions you propose in terms of optics or de-brainwashing cultists. Which in turn makes it nothing but self fellating philosophizing.
Heck, by merely engaging with you here, I feel ever so slightly more secure in my "insane perspective" as you call it. So you are doing great at this.
I don't know why you're lying about me again. I've already told you that none of this is a secret cabal. Philosophies aren't secret cabals. The WEF isn't a secret cabal. The Fabian Society is not a secret cabal. Queer Theory is not a secret cabal.
So, because you're a lunatic that wants to hurt, imprison, or kill innocent people; and because you're not willing to engage honestly; I'm incapable of helping others thereby justifying your position of violence against the innocent.
Yeah, no.
Again, innocent people have a right to defend themselves against your aggression.
Of course, The Jews are doing it out in the open and constantly talk about them doing it! The Stormfags are right! They have all these big organizations and the sheeple just choose not to see it!
You got me, I shouldn't have thrown the word secret in there because it wasn't correct. It was reflexive when typing the word cabal, so my apologies. Nothing else about that point has changed by removing the superfluous word, however.
Especially as we have moved from a specific brand of Communists, to Leftists as a whole to a bunch of various groups and ideologies that are Communist in some manner. I don't know how you consider this helping your case, because you are just showing the same thing again. "Everyone I don't like is the exact same Real Evil™."
No, nothing about my position or perspective is part of this conclusion. Its simply reacting to your poor charisma and word skills, despite claiming the need for de-programming huge swaths of the population from a cult they live in. Something that requires absurdly high levels in those specific categories to even being to accomplish.
I merely threw in a little mockery at the end there, that came after my actual point, to show an example of that failing. Because you'll need to budge people a lot more committed than I to accomplish what you consider a "solution."
I don't know why you keep repeating this as if it never occurred to me. Yes, actions have consequences and proper reactions. One of those is the usage of their both human and American right to bear arms and defend themselves. I've been beaten heavily for my beliefs in the past (though anti-feminist ones, my actual true ideological passion), I don't live in terror of it.
That's the fun part about having an idea based on action instead of constantly sweating in worry about "muh optics" and inaction. You can follow a chain of obvious branches off your tree, instead of constantly sitting around waiting for a random event to react to.
You are being intentionally dishonest about my position, and you have, at no point, asked me to explain what the difference is between a Leftist, a Marxist, a Communist, a Bolshevik, or a Queer. You have decided to assume that I use each of them interchangeably, and that I'm not being intentionally reductive with the term "Sex Communist" as a way of simplistically explaining an underlying principle of "A Neo-Marxist metanarrative focusing on political revolution against the sex binary and sex roles in society as a mechanism to undermine the family, such that it can destroy Capitalism".
You don't want to understand what I'm saying, because you've already made up your mind about what I'm saying, no matter how many times I tell you the same thing in different ways. A Trotskist and a Titoist are both Leftists. They are not totally unrelated ideologies that have no similar philosophy, nor are they a cabal of 3 or 5 conspirators.
It's the first thing you did. You decided that guilt by association was enough justification to punish people who had committed no crimes, and people who had committed crimes equally. That is abominable. Your complaint about being unable to de-program people because they are part of a cult (or are victimized by a cult) is why you justified this level of ruthless violence.
"... this ... should serve as a reminder that we will never be able to live in a "harmonious" society with them. .... this is the type of activists and activities even the "good, based gays" condone through silent inaction, and gleefully feast upon the spoils of if they win regardless."
So long as you refuse to recognize a distinction between a friendly gay neighbor who has wronged no one, and a Queer Activist who wants to fuck your kids; it is inevitable that you will intentionally target your innocent neighbors. It is also inevitable that you will extend that guilt by association to anyone who didn't support your aggression in the first place (people like me). Hence why we get to this point:
I'm not trying to de-convert a caricature of yourself. I'm not de-converting anyone who's already decided that I'm on the enemy side of the friend-enemy distinction; and that anti-moral actions against me are categorical imperatives. Once you've decided to cross that Rubicon, words are not what anyone else should be using when you peruse them. All I'm doing is explaining my position to you, and that you probably shouldn't pursue your guilt-by-association strategy. You're free to take it or leave it. I'm not trying to persuade you, because you've made it clear that there is no reason for it. It's more of a "Bold strategy, Cotton".
For example, I have Leftists in my family. Unlike you, I won't be putting bullets in them for giving credence to Leftist talking points. Instead, I focus on maintaining healthy familial bonds, refuse to let political grievance outweigh those bonds of obligation, and make honest debate possible in such a way that they are safe to reveal their own reactionary interpretations of the discrepancies between Leftist meta-narratives and real world experiences. I am particularly doing this, not for my anti-Communist crusade, but because I don't want their kids getting their genitals mutilated.
Deconversion from cults and individuation are not things that can be done in a single internet argument. Those things must be done in intimate situations among friends and confidants. It is important to actually help people who are burned walk away from that cult, and then help them to individuate, in order for any cultural progress to be made. As I said before, attacking the escaped victims only drives them back to the cult, which re-enforces the cult's narrative about society, and strengthens it.
Didn't need to. I pointed out you were using Communist for everything, so you immediately switched to Leftist in the next part. Its a sad little backpedal you did when called out, that you are now ranting with as many words as possible to try and obfuscate being called on.
When I said this sentence, I meant nothing about my particular perspective was factored into saying you weren't capable of meeting your own solution's needs in terms of deprogramming a cultist.
For someone whining a lot about my so called inability to ask or understand your point, you certainly are wildly misunderstanding mine.
You are really caught up on that little bit of mockery I threw in aren't you? I suppose when you believe yourself to have all the answers and world figured out, narcissism and its fragility comes with the territory.
Hey, so do I! In fact, my adult daughter is a lesbian ace! My best friend for my entire life is a hardline anti-Christian Bidenbro! Fit that into your paradigm of what you believe I believe. Because its getting funnier to watch you write an ideological perspective for me.
Here I'll even give you a hint. At no point did I say anyone was forever tainted, almost like I have a huge belief in repentance being a centerpiece of all society.