The original case is fucking bananas as it was. Basically, it was rumored that this cake maker shop wouldn't make cakes for gay weddings. So Queer activists went to the shop and demanded a gay wedding cake. They were told they could have any of the pre-made items on display. They refused and demanded a custom designed wedding cake, and they insisted that it had to be for a gay wedding. The artist refused. They sued and dragged him before the State's "Human Rights Council". They violated his due process rights in how they ignored the facts of the case, fined him an insane amount of money, and that is what was dragged into the federal courts. SCOTUS didn't explicitly say that he had to make custom art for gay weddings against his religious convictions; just that the State Civil Rights body didn't abide by the constitution in how insane it behaved.
In response, the Queer Activists doubled down. They went to the shop a half-dozen times for any reason they could think of, and chose the specific case they wanted to make. Rinse and repeat the whole thing but with transgenderism.
Its stories like this that should serve as a reminder that we will never be able to live in a "harmonious" society with them. Even humoring them is granting them a step towards victory.
Because this is the type of activists and activities even the "good, based gays" condone through silent inaction, and gleefully feast upon the spoils of if they win regardless.
Hard disagree. In fact, you are doing exactly the most import act to support Queers: accept their claim that they represent anything about gays.
While it is true you can never live with a single Queer Activist; they are Sex Communists fundamentally. This means they use whatever group is necessary as a human shield against the core group of activists. Plenty of gays are told to remain silent if they ever want a social life or community support, lest they be attacked even worse than anyone else (since they were dependent upon the conquered social community). Anyone else who disagrees, has to completely separate themselves out. They can do this silently to avoid being targeted, normally. The ones who step out of line get special treatment for abuse. There used to be entire organizations dedicated to "outing" conservative gays. Not just ones that were engaged with infidelity, but ones that were just either Christian, or Republican, or Conservative; including posting revenge porn and honey-potting them
It's like saying you can't live with the working-class because of how Trade Unionists behave, and the silent support that working class gives them. If you defied the union, thanks to the mob, you'd end up dead. If you were a nobody, you'd be a "skag" and be beaten within an inch of your life by 50 people. Their point is to divide an conquer, by having you cede ground to them as legitimate representatives; when they are clearly a conquering force.
There are no Chinese Communists, just Communists occupying China.
accept their claim that they represent anything about gays.
When you are a fractionally small portion of a population with a massive portion of that fraction being X, you do in fact represent that group. Especially as the minority leftover seems more than happy to allow you to represent them, either through complete silence or simple ignorance.
If you allow them to bully you into being their thralls, you have my sympathy to some extent but you are still complicit in their crimes against both children and society. Because once you've partaken in the recent ill gotten gains of your cohorts, you aren't clean of sin. By merely waving a Pride flag (which I'll wager over 90% do in some form), you are submitting to let them at minimum represent you if not outright supporting them doing so.
Plenty of gays are told to remain silent if they ever want a social life or community support, lest they be attacked even worse than anyone else
I'm shocked you can write this and think it does anything but make them look worse. Because its fundamentally admitting that they can have no personality beyond being gay to preclude them from having any social ability beyond one built on gayness. Which not only makes them sound pathetic, it means they cannot be disengaged from these activists ever as they are too symbiotically linked.
You are still committing all the same assumptions that grants Leftists territory and authority. You are granting that the poor are fully represented by Communists, despite the fact that the poor tend to oppose Communism when directly asked. But instead of highlighting that division, and pointing out, you demand to cede that ground to the Communists and wage a war against the poor.
Chile just had this exact issue with natives in their constitutional referendum. The Constitution was explicitly designed to favor the native populations as much as possible, and the native population that was targeted explicitly turned out against it, harder than the general population. Whatever mild benefits may swing in the favor of that tribe, they were not looking for Communism. But, you demand that they accept Communists as their one true representation, regardless of their opposition to Communism, because the Communists told you they did.
What's more, you've gone even further: If you are beaten into submission you are guilty of your attacker's other crimes against other people. That makes even less sense.
By merely waving a Pride flag (which I'll wager over 90% do in some form), you are submitting to let them at minimum represent you if not outright supporting them doing so.
Most people would have no problem waiving a pride parade because they have zero knowledge of the history of Queer Theory, nor the history of Pride. That does not mean that your normie boss should have his head smashed in for being a podophile. Instead of recognizing the fact that activist institutional propaganda has played in deceiving people, you not only drag them kicking and screaming into the arms of their enemy, but then demand equal punishment.
Waging a war on the innocent and naïve serves only to validate Leftist claims of defense against right-wing terror. "You see! Those crazy rightsists just hate love and tolerance. No Leftist in human history has ever done anything wrong, and John Money is a well established scientist. Don't listen to their crazy conspiracy theories! They are just hateful. Queer Theory doesn't exist. Look how much he wants to hurt you! I'm the only one who can protect you."
its fundamentally admitting that they can have no personality beyond being gay to preclude them from having any social ability beyond one built on gayness.
It's cult behavior 101 that you aren't getting. The point behind getting gays into the queer community is to destroy their external relationships and define them entirely along with the cult. That way, you can use social blackmail to destroy people psychologically when they oppose you.
The Left does this with everything, 100% of the time. People who are going to lose their entire support system (because the Left ensured that external support systems were destroyed), are going to remain quiet because they don't want to lose their grip on reality.
The correct response is to try and show them how to live outside the cult, and the response can't be "Fuck you kill yourself, you're a fucking pedo because I said so, and you deserve to die. I don't care if you did nothing wrong, you should be executed along with everyone else." That is going to drive them back to the cult because they do not believe there are other options. That strengthens the cult's position; as they intended, and as you provided.
The original case is fucking bananas as it was. Basically, it was rumored that this cake maker shop wouldn't make cakes for gay weddings. So Queer activists went to the shop and demanded a gay wedding cake. They were told they could have any of the pre-made items on display. They refused and demanded a custom designed wedding cake, and they insisted that it had to be for a gay wedding. The artist refused. They sued and dragged him before the State's "Human Rights Council". They violated his due process rights in how they ignored the facts of the case, fined him an insane amount of money, and that is what was dragged into the federal courts. SCOTUS didn't explicitly say that he had to make custom art for gay weddings against his religious convictions; just that the State Civil Rights body didn't abide by the constitution in how insane it behaved.
In response, the Queer Activists doubled down. They went to the shop a half-dozen times for any reason they could think of, and chose the specific case they wanted to make. Rinse and repeat the whole thing but with transgenderism.
Its stories like this that should serve as a reminder that we will never be able to live in a "harmonious" society with them. Even humoring them is granting them a step towards victory.
Because this is the type of activists and activities even the "good, based gays" condone through silent inaction, and gleefully feast upon the spoils of if they win regardless.
Hard disagree. In fact, you are doing exactly the most import act to support Queers: accept their claim that they represent anything about gays.
While it is true you can never live with a single Queer Activist; they are Sex Communists fundamentally. This means they use whatever group is necessary as a human shield against the core group of activists. Plenty of gays are told to remain silent if they ever want a social life or community support, lest they be attacked even worse than anyone else (since they were dependent upon the conquered social community). Anyone else who disagrees, has to completely separate themselves out. They can do this silently to avoid being targeted, normally. The ones who step out of line get special treatment for abuse. There used to be entire organizations dedicated to "outing" conservative gays. Not just ones that were engaged with infidelity, but ones that were just either Christian, or Republican, or Conservative; including posting revenge porn and honey-potting them
It's like saying you can't live with the working-class because of how Trade Unionists behave, and the silent support that working class gives them. If you defied the union, thanks to the mob, you'd end up dead. If you were a nobody, you'd be a "skag" and be beaten within an inch of your life by 50 people. Their point is to divide an conquer, by having you cede ground to them as legitimate representatives; when they are clearly a conquering force.
There are no Chinese Communists, just Communists occupying China.
When you are a fractionally small portion of a population with a massive portion of that fraction being X, you do in fact represent that group. Especially as the minority leftover seems more than happy to allow you to represent them, either through complete silence or simple ignorance.
If you allow them to bully you into being their thralls, you have my sympathy to some extent but you are still complicit in their crimes against both children and society. Because once you've partaken in the recent ill gotten gains of your cohorts, you aren't clean of sin. By merely waving a Pride flag (which I'll wager over 90% do in some form), you are submitting to let them at minimum represent you if not outright supporting them doing so.
I'm shocked you can write this and think it does anything but make them look worse. Because its fundamentally admitting that they can have no personality beyond being gay to preclude them from having any social ability beyond one built on gayness. Which not only makes them sound pathetic, it means they cannot be disengaged from these activists ever as they are too symbiotically linked.
You are still committing all the same assumptions that grants Leftists territory and authority. You are granting that the poor are fully represented by Communists, despite the fact that the poor tend to oppose Communism when directly asked. But instead of highlighting that division, and pointing out, you demand to cede that ground to the Communists and wage a war against the poor.
Chile just had this exact issue with natives in their constitutional referendum. The Constitution was explicitly designed to favor the native populations as much as possible, and the native population that was targeted explicitly turned out against it, harder than the general population. Whatever mild benefits may swing in the favor of that tribe, they were not looking for Communism. But, you demand that they accept Communists as their one true representation, regardless of their opposition to Communism, because the Communists told you they did.
What's more, you've gone even further: If you are beaten into submission you are guilty of your attacker's other crimes against other people. That makes even less sense.
Most people would have no problem waiving a pride parade because they have zero knowledge of the history of Queer Theory, nor the history of Pride. That does not mean that your normie boss should have his head smashed in for being a podophile. Instead of recognizing the fact that activist institutional propaganda has played in deceiving people, you not only drag them kicking and screaming into the arms of their enemy, but then demand equal punishment.
Waging a war on the innocent and naïve serves only to validate Leftist claims of defense against right-wing terror. "You see! Those crazy rightsists just hate love and tolerance. No Leftist in human history has ever done anything wrong, and John Money is a well established scientist. Don't listen to their crazy conspiracy theories! They are just hateful. Queer Theory doesn't exist. Look how much he wants to hurt you! I'm the only one who can protect you."
It's cult behavior 101 that you aren't getting. The point behind getting gays into the queer community is to destroy their external relationships and define them entirely along with the cult. That way, you can use social blackmail to destroy people psychologically when they oppose you.
The Left does this with everything, 100% of the time. People who are going to lose their entire support system (because the Left ensured that external support systems were destroyed), are going to remain quiet because they don't want to lose their grip on reality.
The correct response is to try and show them how to live outside the cult, and the response can't be "Fuck you kill yourself, you're a fucking pedo because I said so, and you deserve to die. I don't care if you did nothing wrong, you should be executed along with everyone else." That is going to drive them back to the cult because they do not believe there are other options. That strengthens the cult's position; as they intended, and as you provided.
Stop facilitating your enemy.