when I have been hiring someone, I find any sort of scientific approach to judging their personality is always flawed. just talk to them, and answer to yourself this very simple subjective question: Is this person easy to talk to?
if yes? congratulations they've passed the personality test. if no? or maybe middling? then simply weigh the communication difficulties against their intended position and see if the drawbacks are worth their employment.
The strategy I eventually settled on for interviewing engineers was to ask candidates what they were most proud of in their career, and have them talk about their work in as technical level of detail as they're capable. Just keep asking "how did you solve that?" or "how did that work?" You learn a lot about a lot of interesting tech, get a feel for how much they worked on and if they're bullshitting you.
I interviewed this guy once who worked on satellite TV set top box firmware who told me all about how the broadcast encryption worked, and it was funny later on watching some random video describing how that same system was cracked and realizing "hey this is exactly how that guy said it all worked!"
See, that involves a degree of effort on your part, which is what these shitty companies and orgs obviously want to avoid…
It’s a way of saving them effort, while also weeding out any normal person who decides “This is a bullshit waste of time”, or alternatively “Well, this is dumb, but I really do want this position, so I suppose I’ll have to do it”…
Which is… Nit the most effective way of finding the right match, via a vis your approach, but I honestly don’t think they care, unfortunately…
It’s just another way of massively loading all the effort of the recruitment process back onto the applicant, while saving HR time and effort… 🤷🏻♂️
Like @ernsithe commented elsewhere re:sociopaths, narcissists excel at coming off confident, charming and possessing leadership skills on first meets and short-form interviews.
It's why so many narcissists end up as politicians or initially fool women into dating them.
An organization or person hiring is going to be hoodwinked often if the final hiring decision is based on "gut" feel from brief social interaction.
probably, and in any non-technical position this could definitely be a problem. I've also found that people who talk themselves up excessively usually can't walk the walk. a technical exercise at the interview will usually filter out narcissists in sociopaths in my experience.
Even if it doesn't, so long as I can work comfortably with the person and they can do their job, I really don't care if they are a narcissist or not.
when I have been hiring someone, I find any sort of scientific approach to judging their personality is always flawed. just talk to them, and answer to yourself this very simple subjective question: Is this person easy to talk to?
if yes? congratulations they've passed the personality test. if no? or maybe middling? then simply weigh the communication difficulties against their intended position and see if the drawbacks are worth their employment.
The strategy I eventually settled on for interviewing engineers was to ask candidates what they were most proud of in their career, and have them talk about their work in as technical level of detail as they're capable. Just keep asking "how did you solve that?" or "how did that work?" You learn a lot about a lot of interesting tech, get a feel for how much they worked on and if they're bullshitting you.
I interviewed this guy once who worked on satellite TV set top box firmware who told me all about how the broadcast encryption worked, and it was funny later on watching some random video describing how that same system was cracked and realizing "hey this is exactly how that guy said it all worked!"
See, that involves a degree of effort on your part, which is what these shitty companies and orgs obviously want to avoid…
It’s a way of saving them effort, while also weeding out any normal person who decides “This is a bullshit waste of time”, or alternatively “Well, this is dumb, but I really do want this position, so I suppose I’ll have to do it”…
Which is… Nit the most effective way of finding the right match, via a vis your approach, but I honestly don’t think they care, unfortunately…
It’s just another way of massively loading all the effort of the recruitment process back onto the applicant, while saving HR time and effort… 🤷🏻♂️
This is a good way to end up with an organization full of narcissists.
not sure I follow, I usually find narcissists insufferable
Like @ernsithe commented elsewhere re:sociopaths, narcissists excel at coming off confident, charming and possessing leadership skills on first meets and short-form interviews.
It's why so many narcissists end up as politicians or initially fool women into dating them.
An organization or person hiring is going to be hoodwinked often if the final hiring decision is based on "gut" feel from brief social interaction.
probably, and in any non-technical position this could definitely be a problem. I've also found that people who talk themselves up excessively usually can't walk the walk. a technical exercise at the interview will usually filter out narcissists in sociopaths in my experience.
Even if it doesn't, so long as I can work comfortably with the person and they can do their job, I really don't care if they are a narcissist or not.