For those who don't keep up with the nonsense, a big thing in feminism right now is pushing men into "HEAL" (health, education, administration, literacy) careers. I won't pretend to know what the last 2 mean, but in practice they're trying to get men to become nurses and teachers. Nursing is a miserable job, and any man who's interested in healthcare should become a PA or a doctor. He'll get paid better and won't have to worry about coming across as a faggot. I'm actually in favor of more male teachers provided they aren't soy boys because boys need positive male role models. But this kind of crap is why men should avoid teaching like the plague. It's not reasonable to ask men to martyr themselves like this, especially for what teachers get paid. Which of course segues into the pay problem. Women can do those jobs because they can get a husband who earns the real money while she LARPs as a Strong Independent Woman. A man can't support anyone on that kind of salary. Let's also keep in mind that the whole purpose of this scheme is to push men out of STEM so women can steal the good jobs.
I've worked healthcare jobs, they're super hostile to men. Everything I or another guy (who was my best co-worker and lasted 3 weeks) is harshly scrutinized, while everything the women do is incompetent but fine.
STEM is already full of women, especially in academia
Tell me about it. With a few exceptions the best professors I've had are older white dudes because they had to earn their positions instead having it handed to them as part of a DIE scheme. In undergrad I avoided one female professor like the plague after taking a W in one of her classes. I suspect she's a man hater, but considering what one of the female students in that class told me it's possible that she's just an incompetent retard. I ended up getting my letters of recommendation from those older white dudes that they're so eager to get rid of.
Kids aren't stupid, and it didn't take girls long to realise that if the teacher's male, all it takes is one "the teacher touched me" story to end a teacher's career.
Whether it happened or not.
Particularly when, these days, coordinating a group to make accusations of the same man at the same time is trivially easy.
You would have to be insane to want to be a teacher these days.
And the truly galling thing is that the administration is fully against them from the very beginning. One of these little shits can run their mouth and instantly no one is on your side and your whole career is destroyed.
I had a gym teacher in 8th grade who almost got fired (potentially arrested) because he made one of the girls in my class run laps and she accused him of touching her. I and pretty much everyone else actually heard her say it was because she didn't want to run laps, so it didn't go anywhere. But if she'd kept it to herself, he'd have been fucked.
Nursing is a miserable job, and any man who's interested in healthcare should become a PA or a doctor. He'll get paid better and won't have to worry about coming across as a faggot
There are a couple of exceptions.
Mental health nursing, we need large men who are basically security guards with health training, you need to be able to command respect and also tackle and hold people down till the meds kick in. Prison guards for schizophrenics basically.
Anesthetist nurse. High paying, basically just working under the anethetist themselves and administering meds. Reasonably split at around 50/50, and that's only cause so many of the earlier steps are female dominated. If the training that fed into it weren't so biased it would be 98/2. It's very well paying.
And there are others. It's a shame they are called 'nurse' really, because those are jobs that are suited to males, other than the name.
As a general rule sure, don't become a nurse lads. But there are a couple of 'nursing' roles which are male suited and male dominated. Or at least reasonably split, because they require male skills and physique, and which we do need as a society.
Mental health nursing, we need large men who are basically security guards with health training, you need to be able to command respect and also tackle and hold people down till the meds kick in. Prison guards for schizophrenics basically.
Is that really a good job though? Like are they paid well and respected? I know a major complaint that men who go into these kinds of fields have is that they're always assigned violent and unruly patients/clients/whatever. Fair point about anesthetist nurse, and as you said that one would benefit from a name change.
Is that really a good job though? Like are they paid well and respected?
I know a major complaint that men who go into these kinds of fields have is that they're always assigned violent and unruly patients/clients/whatever.
Obviously the work itself is shit, you're dealing with the kind of people no-one wants to work with all other things being equal. Yeah, that's the point. That's where the males are needed. Same as policing and the army.
Pay is hard to say because of how nurses are graded and all the different quals, it ranges from 'about average for educated' up to 'damn nice but not anesthetist nice', depending on which qual you have, where I am.
E: Oh, I and remembered a 3rd group. Military stuff, better ratios there.
For those who don't keep up with the nonsense, a big thing in feminism right now is pushing men into "HEAL" (health, education, administration, literacy) careers. I won't pretend to know what the last 2 mean, but in practice they're trying to get men to become nurses and teachers. Nursing is a miserable job, and any man who's interested in healthcare should become a PA or a doctor. He'll get paid better and won't have to worry about coming across as a faggot. I'm actually in favor of more male teachers provided they aren't soy boys because boys need positive male role models. But this kind of crap is why men should avoid teaching like the plague. It's not reasonable to ask men to martyr themselves like this, especially for what teachers get paid. Which of course segues into the pay problem. Women can do those jobs because they can get a husband who earns the real money while she LARPs as a Strong Independent Woman. A man can't support anyone on that kind of salary. Let's also keep in mind that the whole purpose of this scheme is to push men out of STEM so women can steal the good jobs.
I've worked healthcare jobs, they're super hostile to men. Everything I or another guy (who was my best co-worker and lasted 3 weeks) is harshly scrutinized, while everything the women do is incompetent but fine.
Let's be real, that's women in every job
Which is why women shouldn't be in the workplace.
Because nursing and teaching is the angle we use when they point out gender disparity for ceo and other cushy jobs of power.
Tell me about it. With a few exceptions the best professors I've had are older white dudes because they had to earn their positions instead having it handed to them as part of a DIE scheme. In undergrad I avoided one female professor like the plague after taking a W in one of her classes. I suspect she's a man hater, but considering what one of the female students in that class told me it's possible that she's just an incompetent retard. I ended up getting my letters of recommendation from those older white dudes that they're so eager to get rid of.
I think a lot of the women teachers end up bitter towards the male teachers because a lot of the students end up liking them more.
Men, particularly, left teaching for a reason.
Kids aren't stupid, and it didn't take girls long to realise that if the teacher's male, all it takes is one "the teacher touched me" story to end a teacher's career.
Whether it happened or not.
Particularly when, these days, coordinating a group to make accusations of the same man at the same time is trivially easy.
You would have to be insane to want to be a teacher these days.
And the truly galling thing is that the administration is fully against them from the very beginning. One of these little shits can run their mouth and instantly no one is on your side and your whole career is destroyed.
I had a gym teacher in 8th grade who almost got fired (potentially arrested) because he made one of the girls in my class run laps and she accused him of touching her. I and pretty much everyone else actually heard her say it was because she didn't want to run laps, so it didn't go anywhere. But if she'd kept it to herself, he'd have been fucked.
Blyat, indeed.
There are a couple of exceptions.
Mental health nursing, we need large men who are basically security guards with health training, you need to be able to command respect and also tackle and hold people down till the meds kick in. Prison guards for schizophrenics basically.
Anesthetist nurse. High paying, basically just working under the anethetist themselves and administering meds. Reasonably split at around 50/50, and that's only cause so many of the earlier steps are female dominated. If the training that fed into it weren't so biased it would be 98/2. It's very well paying.
And there are others. It's a shame they are called 'nurse' really, because those are jobs that are suited to males, other than the name.
As a general rule sure, don't become a nurse lads. But there are a couple of 'nursing' roles which are male suited and male dominated. Or at least reasonably split, because they require male skills and physique, and which we do need as a society.
Is that really a good job though? Like are they paid well and respected? I know a major complaint that men who go into these kinds of fields have is that they're always assigned violent and unruly patients/clients/whatever. Fair point about anesthetist nurse, and as you said that one would benefit from a name change.
Obviously the work itself is shit, you're dealing with the kind of people no-one wants to work with all other things being equal. Yeah, that's the point. That's where the males are needed. Same as policing and the army.
Pay is hard to say because of how nurses are graded and all the different quals, it ranges from 'about average for educated' up to 'damn nice but not anesthetist nice', depending on which qual you have, where I am.
E: Oh, I and remembered a 3rd group. Military stuff, better ratios there.
Med schools are taking mostly women for Drs and PAs now.