I hate how these people always respond. Like, it was an awkward question (understandable, considering all the pressure not to ask it), but the dismissive attitude of the "top minds" of the culture war is frustrating. I wish they'd be willing to honestly engage. It doesn't have to be 'heil Hitler' or 'gas gas gas' or anything, either. In fact, it obviously shouldn't be. But I'd love an honest discussion, instead of mockery or outright defense.
"So, Jews are everywhere in these things we don't like, what do you say to that?"
"Jews are, like, the best, bigot."
There's some middle fucking ground to be had, here.
They'll willingly talk about anything else, and act so smug and brave when they're dunking on leftists or trannies, or whatever.
I agree with this take 100% except that I think as a practical political matter it has only negative value. I think it is an interesting question though I favor more grounded explanations that look at the demographic characteristics of Jewish people (income, education, intelligence, "minority status", professions) that already highly correlate with leftism/technocratic thinking. Add to that their own normal racial bigotry/nepotism and a, in some ways justifiable, paranoia of nationalism (outside Jewish nationalism, and the hypocrisy of Jewish people on these issues is dreadful but not unique). I think that makes Jewish people poor fellow citizens but extraordinary conspiracy theories require extraordinary evidence, particularly in light of more (IMO) reasonable explanations.
The question then is how "naming the Jew" moves the needle in any positive direction in a society and culture that is unready to have even more basic discussions regarding leftism than that (Walsh can't get people to stop mutilating their own children in a completely insane scheme to turn them into a different gender). All it does is play directly into a trap/narrative the enemies of the right have created. It allows the vast majority of people to dismiss everything you have to say and for the enemies of the right to smear and censor.
I don't even need them to "name the Jew," I just want to live in a free society where you can even answer a question about them.
As to how it moves the needle in a positive direction, I'd say it moves the needle in a free speech direction, and a true equality direction. You should be able to talk about the merits and problems of any group, whether they be black, white or, yes, Jewish.
I agree with you, though, that in the current scenario it is quite the trap question. You have very few incentives to honestly address it, and so many incentives to not engage, it makes sense that people keep dodging.
If I was in his position, I'd like to say I'd behave differently...but I probably wouldn't. If I was independent, perhaps, but in the exact same position? Where my boss is a self-professed Zionist Jew? Even acknowledging the question is going to get you in really hot water, if not outright fired and blacklisted.
It's a question Shapiro himself should be addressing. And, I've heard him mildly address it a few times. I too want to live in that world where we can all have this discussion in the open. I think that we get closer to that world by avoiding the traps until we can rebuild the culture into one that can handle it.
Imagine that twitter and all other social media platforms collectively banned all discussion about pineapple on pizza. You are not allowed to discuss it, or even suggest that it could be a pizza topping. The only acceptable response to anyone even hinting about it being a topping, or suggesting that it could taste good, is met with instant derision and contempt, then banned. You're instantly faced with a ton of articles written about you by people who have market incentives for other toppings to be chosen instead, calling you delusional and insane, and claiming that you clearly need medication if you think it could work or be tasty.
The problem is not that free speech about pineapples would make it tastier as a topping, or would particularly advance other causes. The problem is that it is a fact that it is a topping, and that there is no valid reason that you're not allowed to simply state the truth.
The problem is that it is a fact that it is a topping, and that there is no valid reason that you're not allowed to simply state the truth.
That's actually a pretty good analogy, and pretty much how I feel. It's not even about "the Jews" for me, it's that I resent they're treated so specially, and you can't even talk about it.
Well it’s pretty simple, Jewish people have undue influence on government based on the very ideologies the majority spot. Jews are also 95% one ethnicity (ashkenazi) in the US and 80% one ethnicity (ashkenazi) worldwide. There’s no other ethnic group in the US that has this level of racial Puritanism. There’s legimate questions that need to be discussed when the most ethnically pure group in the US also heads up the SPLC, ADL, and ACLU.
Walsh acts like he's so brave here, yet he becomes cowardly when it comes to a certain issue https://pomf2.lain.la/f/ue1ydie.mp4
And lol twitter is not a free speech platform. Elon Musk caved to ADL
I hate how these people always respond. Like, it was an awkward question (understandable, considering all the pressure not to ask it), but the dismissive attitude of the "top minds" of the culture war is frustrating. I wish they'd be willing to honestly engage. It doesn't have to be 'heil Hitler' or 'gas gas gas' or anything, either. In fact, it obviously shouldn't be. But I'd love an honest discussion, instead of mockery or outright defense.
"So, Jews are everywhere in these things we don't like, what do you say to that?"
"Jews are, like, the best, bigot."
There's some middle fucking ground to be had, here.
They'll willingly talk about anything else, and act so smug and brave when they're dunking on leftists or trannies, or whatever.
I agree with this take 100% except that I think as a practical political matter it has only negative value. I think it is an interesting question though I favor more grounded explanations that look at the demographic characteristics of Jewish people (income, education, intelligence, "minority status", professions) that already highly correlate with leftism/technocratic thinking. Add to that their own normal racial bigotry/nepotism and a, in some ways justifiable, paranoia of nationalism (outside Jewish nationalism, and the hypocrisy of Jewish people on these issues is dreadful but not unique). I think that makes Jewish people poor fellow citizens but extraordinary conspiracy theories require extraordinary evidence, particularly in light of more (IMO) reasonable explanations.
The question then is how "naming the Jew" moves the needle in any positive direction in a society and culture that is unready to have even more basic discussions regarding leftism than that (Walsh can't get people to stop mutilating their own children in a completely insane scheme to turn them into a different gender). All it does is play directly into a trap/narrative the enemies of the right have created. It allows the vast majority of people to dismiss everything you have to say and for the enemies of the right to smear and censor.
I don't even need them to "name the Jew," I just want to live in a free society where you can even answer a question about them.
As to how it moves the needle in a positive direction, I'd say it moves the needle in a free speech direction, and a true equality direction. You should be able to talk about the merits and problems of any group, whether they be black, white or, yes, Jewish.
I agree with you, though, that in the current scenario it is quite the trap question. You have very few incentives to honestly address it, and so many incentives to not engage, it makes sense that people keep dodging.
If I was in his position, I'd like to say I'd behave differently...but I probably wouldn't. If I was independent, perhaps, but in the exact same position? Where my boss is a self-professed Zionist Jew? Even acknowledging the question is going to get you in really hot water, if not outright fired and blacklisted.
It's a question Shapiro himself should be addressing. And, I've heard him mildly address it a few times. I too want to live in that world where we can all have this discussion in the open. I think that we get closer to that world by avoiding the traps until we can rebuild the culture into one that can handle it.
Here's a shitty analogy:
Imagine that twitter and all other social media platforms collectively banned all discussion about pineapple on pizza. You are not allowed to discuss it, or even suggest that it could be a pizza topping. The only acceptable response to anyone even hinting about it being a topping, or suggesting that it could taste good, is met with instant derision and contempt, then banned. You're instantly faced with a ton of articles written about you by people who have market incentives for other toppings to be chosen instead, calling you delusional and insane, and claiming that you clearly need medication if you think it could work or be tasty.
The problem is not that free speech about pineapples would make it tastier as a topping, or would particularly advance other causes. The problem is that it is a fact that it is a topping, and that there is no valid reason that you're not allowed to simply state the truth.
That's actually a pretty good analogy, and pretty much how I feel. It's not even about "the Jews" for me, it's that I resent they're treated so specially, and you can't even talk about it.
Well it’s pretty simple, Jewish people have undue influence on government based on the very ideologies the majority spot. Jews are also 95% one ethnicity (ashkenazi) in the US and 80% one ethnicity (ashkenazi) worldwide. There’s no other ethnic group in the US that has this level of racial Puritanism. There’s legimate questions that need to be discussed when the most ethnically pure group in the US also heads up the SPLC, ADL, and ACLU.