Forgiveness without repentance is worthless. If someone is willing to prostrate and put in notable effort to cleanse their prior sins, then you absolutely be the bigger man and put emotions aside to assist their redemption. Everyone wins in that situation and all interests are met (except for petty and bloodthirsty ones).
If all they've done is apologize and put in token efforts, then fuck em and everyone who enables them.
If I don't have his heart, then his sword can be pointed at me within a second regardless of it being pointed at my enemies the moment prior. I don't consider myself getting stabbed a good price to pay for someone else being stabbed. Which is why I don't welcome the de-trans, for a recent example, back with open arms like many here.
I also don't have issue with bloodthirst or petty interests if they are within reason, but those are simply the only times when calling for repentance doesn't benefit you. But at those times, neither does forgiveness.
If I don't have his heart, then his sword can be pointed at me within a second regardless of it being pointed at my enemies the moment prior
Correct. As is true for anyone. You don't have that guarantee for anyone. In fact, you don't have the guarantee that you have anyone's "heart", even if you think you do.
Asking for apologies is just pure self-ego-stroking, and not something that has any positive impact. People don't like to apologize. If you asked me to apologize for having been a SJW, you'd get a finger in return.
People don't switch allegiances on a whim, but make it easier to be good rather than hard.
But at those times, neither does forgiveness.
Forgiveness is also an internal state which is irrelevant.
Correct as well. But someone willing to put in the effort to try and repent (however that may be) has shown a willingness to act on their newfound beliefs instead of merely speak them. Which puts their trustability at a higher level than a turncoat.
Asking for apologies is just pure self-ego-stroking
That's why I don't ask for them. I simply don't accept someone coming up to me with them either, which is what most try and do. If you are on the opposite side from me, on whatever line is drawn, then you are my opponent not a "potential convertee." If you wish to change sides, you need more than an "oopsie poopsie I was retarded once, but now I'm not retarded at all plz take me in!"
In that vein, for example, you've put in considerable efforts to be on this side of the SJW divide just by maintaining numerous of these dumb little spaces in which we can speak, including trying to salvage KIAPrime's decent into its own ass. No apology was ever needed, you simply put in effort and that should be enough for anyone who would hold your past against you (I don't know of it, nor care).
make it easier to be good rather than hard.
There is a vast land of choices between "hard" and "completely free, no questions asked." If that minor hurdle is too much for them, then they weren't worth bringing over to begin with and would only bring the overall strength of your side down, whether by infighting or "light Wokeness" rot like concern trolling.
Forgiveness without repentance is worthless. If someone is willing to prostrate and put in notable effort to cleanse their prior sins, then you absolutely be the bigger man and put emotions aside to assist their redemption. Everyone wins in that situation and all interests are met (except for petty and bloodthirsty ones).
If all they've done is apologize and put in token efforts, then fuck em and everyone who enables them.
You don't need someone's heart, you just need his sword. Are you in it to win battles or to win souls?
I don't have a problem with being bloodthirsty or petty. I do have a problem when this gets in the way of expediency.
If I don't have his heart, then his sword can be pointed at me within a second regardless of it being pointed at my enemies the moment prior. I don't consider myself getting stabbed a good price to pay for someone else being stabbed. Which is why I don't welcome the de-trans, for a recent example, back with open arms like many here.
I also don't have issue with bloodthirst or petty interests if they are within reason, but those are simply the only times when calling for repentance doesn't benefit you. But at those times, neither does forgiveness.
Correct. As is true for anyone. You don't have that guarantee for anyone. In fact, you don't have the guarantee that you have anyone's "heart", even if you think you do.
Asking for apologies is just pure self-ego-stroking, and not something that has any positive impact. People don't like to apologize. If you asked me to apologize for having been a SJW, you'd get a finger in return.
People don't switch allegiances on a whim, but make it easier to be good rather than hard.
Forgiveness is also an internal state which is irrelevant.
Correct as well. But someone willing to put in the effort to try and repent (however that may be) has shown a willingness to act on their newfound beliefs instead of merely speak them. Which puts their trustability at a higher level than a turncoat.
That's why I don't ask for them. I simply don't accept someone coming up to me with them either, which is what most try and do. If you are on the opposite side from me, on whatever line is drawn, then you are my opponent not a "potential convertee." If you wish to change sides, you need more than an "oopsie poopsie I was retarded once, but now I'm not retarded at all plz take me in!"
In that vein, for example, you've put in considerable efforts to be on this side of the SJW divide just by maintaining numerous of these dumb little spaces in which we can speak, including trying to salvage KIAPrime's decent into its own ass. No apology was ever needed, you simply put in effort and that should be enough for anyone who would hold your past against you (I don't know of it, nor care).
There is a vast land of choices between "hard" and "completely free, no questions asked." If that minor hurdle is too much for them, then they weren't worth bringing over to begin with and would only bring the overall strength of your side down, whether by infighting or "light Wokeness" rot like concern trolling.