Yeah, but... Have you like, looked at most pop culture pre, say, 2010..?
While it is certainly not perfect, it's like a whole other world, compared to today...
Like, sure, some shit was still shitty, but at least it didn't feel the need to shove "muh current correct opinion" in your face...
Like, even in music videos and shit, everyone just looks so normal (ignoring emo shit, for this), by comparison to now. And white self-hatred wasn't yet quite so in vogue, so "black ghetto sheeeit" wasn't yet predominant.
Sure, nostalgia plays a part here, but oh man, it's so much worse now...
Agreed. Like pull up music videos from the time like by 3oh3 or any of the pop stuff by Kesha, Lady Gaga or even Katy Perry.
It's normal. Zany maybe a lot of the time but it's not current correct opinion or ashamed of itself. Starstrukk especially could not be made today. Like 30 sec of the video is Katy Perry dancing almost naked in the rain because that's some guy's fantasy and the video is about finding an attractive straight partner by throwing a coin in a fountain. No one's partner fantasy in that video is a fat troon and that tells you a lot about the time.
Good Girls Go Bad by Cobra Starship is always my go to for this era of “pop”, simply because Leighton Meester is supremely underrated as a singer, despite being an “It girl” at the time… And she is, and always will be I guess, the “hot one” from, well, you know the show…
But hell, even Neon Trees, where the lead singer is gay…
There’s no fucking way anyone would no that from their music at the time, or the vids, and perhaps that is the point…
So, different music, but I agree completely.
I really don’t like any of those three women as people (Kesha has been through some shit, I guess), but even I can admit they had some decent songs, once…
But yeah, the world was a better place, before every single popular artist on the planet had to have the same “suitably woke” opinions on everything, lol…
That started in the nineties. Hip hop became the dominant music genre in the late nineties/early two thousands. It's when the DNC figured out that they needed to keep blacks "on the plantation" (as black conservatives say) and they started using the entertainment industry (amongst other things) to wedge these wildly disparate demographics together to form a coalition of DNC voters.
Yeah, but... Have you like, looked at most pop culture pre, say, 2010..?
While it is certainly not perfect, it's like a whole other world, compared to today...
Like, sure, some shit was still shitty, but at least it didn't feel the need to shove "muh current correct opinion" in your face...
Like, even in music videos and shit, everyone just looks so normal (ignoring emo shit, for this), by comparison to now. And white self-hatred wasn't yet quite so in vogue, so "black ghetto sheeeit" wasn't yet predominant.
Sure, nostalgia plays a part here, but oh man, it's so much worse now...
Agreed. Like pull up music videos from the time like by 3oh3 or any of the pop stuff by Kesha, Lady Gaga or even Katy Perry.
It's normal. Zany maybe a lot of the time but it's not current correct opinion or ashamed of itself. Starstrukk especially could not be made today. Like 30 sec of the video is Katy Perry dancing almost naked in the rain because that's some guy's fantasy and the video is about finding an attractive straight partner by throwing a coin in a fountain. No one's partner fantasy in that video is a fat troon and that tells you a lot about the time.
Good Girls Go Bad by Cobra Starship is always my go to for this era of “pop”, simply because Leighton Meester is supremely underrated as a singer, despite being an “It girl” at the time… And she is, and always will be I guess, the “hot one” from, well, you know the show…
But hell, even Neon Trees, where the lead singer is gay…
There’s no fucking way anyone would no that from their music at the time, or the vids, and perhaps that is the point…
So, different music, but I agree completely.
I really don’t like any of those three women as people (Kesha has been through some shit, I guess), but even I can admit they had some decent songs, once…
But yeah, the world was a better place, before every single popular artist on the planet had to have the same “suitably woke” opinions on everything, lol…
That started in the nineties. Hip hop became the dominant music genre in the late nineties/early two thousands. It's when the DNC figured out that they needed to keep blacks "on the plantation" (as black conservatives say) and they started using the entertainment industry (amongst other things) to wedge these wildly disparate demographics together to form a coalition of DNC voters.