https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/686/cosponsors?s=1&r=15
Text of the bill:
(B) COVERED ENTITIES.—The entities described in this subparagraph are:
(i) a foreign adversary;
(ii) an entity subject to the jurisdiction of, or organized under the laws of, a foreign adversary; and
(iii) an entity owned, directed, or controlled by a person described in subparagraph (A) or (B).
(8) FOREIGN ADVERSARY.—The term “foreign adversary”—
(A) means any foreign government or regime, determined by the Secretary, pursuant to sections 3 and 5, to have engaged in a long-term pattern or serious instances of conduct significantly adverse to the national security of the United States or the security and safety of United States persons; and
(B) includes, unless removed by the Secretary pursuant to section 6— (i) the People’s Republic of China, including the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region and Macao Special Administrative Region; (ii) the Republic of Cuba; (iii) the Islamic Republic of Iran; (iv) the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea; (v) the Russian Federation; and (vi) the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela under the regime of Nicolás Maduro Moros.
Based on the hyperventilating I've seen on the internet over the last few days, a lot of people have the wrong idea about this bill and think it applies broadly to all companies and all people. It does not. It only applies to the specific countries above, with said list capable of being amended by the Secretary of Commerce through a 180 day review process.
This is from your link btw:
This does not apply to 'foreign adversaries' but to the real opponent of the US government, its people.
It also provides for 'civil forfeiture' of people's money.
Furthermore, it gives absolute authority to the executive to make unaccountable decisions.
No wonder this brought Democrats and Republics together, just like the Patriot Act, just like the War in Iraq, just like every other bad thing.
False.
We all know you oppose this bill because it includes your beloved Russia as one of its targets.
The only people who could be prosecuted under this Act would be persons who acted as foreign agents by willfully trying to help an enemy power violate US law.
I see no problem whatsoever with that. Enemy spies ought to be punished.
We all? I'll challenge you to find one other person who believes that. Not even the people here who hate me will lower themselves to that level. I think you meant: "me, the crazy person here".
Yeah right. It even includes that 'election interference' that the regime has been pushing for years.
No person may cause or aid, abet, counsel, command, induce, procure, permit, or approve the doing of any act prohibited by, or the omission of any act required by any regulation, order, direction, mitigation measure, prohibition, or other authorization or directive issued under, this Act.
What a shock that you support ever power grab by the US government.
Only an agent of the Russian government trying to pretend to be otherwise - real or self-appointed - would take such aggressive offense to being called out on his obvious advocacy for the russian government.
It only applies to companies which are owned by enemy foreign governments, so yes, if a company owned by an enemy foreign government, like Russian propaganda source RT, is banned from operating in the US, the only way to get in trouble under this law is to act as an enemy agent by trying to help RT circumvent the ban. 100% deserved to go to prison for acting as an enemy spy.
It's not a power grab. You're just mad Russia got targeted. If this was a China-only bill you'd probably have supported it.
Great, now where is that substantiation for "we all"? You can't even produce one person, and you don't even realize that you're making an absolute laughing stock out of yourself.
So... by for example, providing archiving services. Fascinating how you support bans on media, and then support a 20 year jail sentence for anyone who helps evade media bans.
Think of a second argument beyond RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA. BTW, Tucker Carlson and Glenn Greenwald have the correct position on this as well.
Holy literal fucking Kafkatrap batman.
Nope. He calls me a CIA agent and I don't give a shit because as someone who actually is not a CIA agent, it isn't a big deal to me.
But if I WAS a CIA agent, I'd probably be very upset at being caught out.
You do remember how posting memes got members of congress to call you a "Russian bot" right?
Posting memes could never get you in trouble under this law.
The only thing that could, is acting to help a foreign enemy company circumvent a ban.
This could potentially cover anyone. But I'm sure the US government is wholly trustworthy and should be getting even more power to tyrannize.
It's hilarious that they added 'under the regime of'. And for no other country. Whatever happened to that 'president' who wasn't even in the country, on behalf of whom the US attempted to do a regime change?
Boom. There goes all of us.
No, it could not.
Thank you for making clear the position of the Russian government by quickly posting not 1, but 2 lame and false attacks against this bill.
It allows your beloved regime to classify anyone ad an 'adversary', and it bans judicial review. So it's completely unaccountable. It could even cover India for buying Russian oil.
You know this sort of nonsense makes you sound deranged, right?
laws can't ban judicial review. that's not how judicial review works. the courts would just ignore anything that violated separation of powers.
No, not just anyone. There are detailed criteria that must be met and a process that must be undertaken. Congress gets a say, so both the executive agencies and Congress would have to agree to add or remove any country.
Which country, exactly are you worried that would be added? I can't think of any country that the US government has any problem with in this context apart from the ones already explicitly named.
False, there is a detailed process laid out in the bill with checks and balances.
False, not only is there no political will to target India, "buying Russian oil" is not remotely within the criteria for being added to the list.
False. You actually come across as doing nothing more than arguing the Russian government position. Nobody thinks I'm "deranged" for pointing out that obvious fact, including you.
Go ahead and prove me wrong by taking a bunch of positions that would be against the Russian government. You can't. You claim to not be russian and not be living in russia, yet your positions are always 1:1 in line with what the russian government wants.
(b) Administrative and judicial review.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, actions taken by the President and the Secretary, and the findings of the President and the Secretary, under this Act shall not be subject to administrative review or judicial review in any Federal court, except as otherwise provided in this section. Actions taken by the Secretary under this Act shall not be subject to sections 551, 553 through 559, and 701 through 707 of title 5, United States Code.*
Can you cite me the part where Congress has to agree? Then it's not as tyrannical as I thought.
Absolutely everyone! Who don't they have a problem with? It's the country that threatens the Solomon Islands with invasion, which blows up German infrastructure and threatens India with sanctions, which supported ethnic cleansing of Serbs unless Serbia would impose sanctions on Russia. I'm not 'worried' as much as I'm pointing out that this puts arbitrary power into the hands of the executive.
But if the Secretary of Commerce can unilaterally make that decision with no judicial review, you don't even need a criterion.
You have yet to produce even one person who thinks like you, even from my small legion of haters.
And then you'd say "HAH, MY CRITICISMS ARE SO STRONG THAT YOU TRIED DESPERATELY TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE NOT A RUSSIAN, AND YOU FAILED!" Doesn't work like that.
I know full well that you'll simply dismiss anything and claim it as vindication. And you know full well that you complimented me when I criticized Russia for Bucha and Mariupol, even as you echo every dumbass talking point coming out of the regime (and Italian actors showing off their expertise on geopolitics).
Well, you not only divined my ethnicity (Russian even though I'm "not white"), where I live (Russia, then Hungary, then Russia), even then the organization for which I work (the FSB).
You have Russia Derangement Syndrome.
Here's the issue, thanks to my decades of experience, my trust in ANY government introducing a bill that doesn't restrict the autonomy of it's citizens in any way is the same level of trust i have leaving a coyote next to my infant child....not high..
And given the track record of this current administration, I'd be more surprised there ISN'T a clause saying they can forcibly sodomize their citizens for 'diversity and inclusion'..
If you are just going to be against the US government all the time, that's a suicide pact since we Americans have real enemies in the form of enemy nations like China.
Every people's true enemy is their own government.
I don't trust the US government to act in the best interests of it's people and allies
I trust MORE giving all us citizens access and opportunity to obtain ALL hardware the military restricts to itself. I'd be more welcoming of a band of Florida men coming to my aid with reaper drones, A-10 Warthogs and tanks than relying on the US government to provide aid.
Sorry I read between the lines on all this shit after 2020. They absolutely can and may very well intend to, use this as a bludgeon to eliminate wrong-think. The conditions and boundaries are stated, the mistake is to think they don't also control how wide reaching those boundaries can be. Also FOIA doesn't apply so it literally could be anyone for literally any or no reason. Youd never be able to find out
No it doesn't mean "everything", you're confusing the Democrats legislative propaganda calling all their SPENDING infrastructure with actual laws.
I agree with opposing broad civil forfeiture laws.
So? nothing wrong with that. Has absolutely nothing to do with encouraging Maduro to be overthrown, and it doesn't matter since Venezuela is not exactly in the business of making internet apps.