The other day I was driving home and listening to sports radio and I guess they had been talking about a trade a team didn't make and the fans were angry. One of the hosts said that the angry fans reminded him of nerds who get angry and become toxic because their fan theories didn't come true. I couldn't have rolled my eyes any harder.
Just brought back memories of all the moronic critics when The Last Jedi came out. It wasn't enough to simply say they enjoyed the movie, they had to crap on everyone who didn't and Disney being Disney went along with it. I remember hearing the "you're just mad because your fan theories did come true" or "You just wanted to see a heroic Luke" I remember asking someone who said those exact things why it was a bad thing to want to see a heroic Luke. They didn't respond.
This also popped up in Game of Thrones with Arya killing the Night King and people getting called sexist for saying that it should've been Jon.
I guess in hindsight this exposed all the media shills for what they were. Anyone who was actually interested in the IP would know that fan theories have been around in nerdom since the beginning. Anyone who actually cared about the IPs would know this, but this is what happens when a site/channel that was made to cater to fans is bought out by a corporation and gets re-staffed with a bunch of hacks. Sci-Fi Channel and the Star Wars websites I would frequent in the 90s and early 00s come to mind.
I still get blowback for not liking The Last Jedi from a friend, and you can tell he does not think the movie was good but he wants to show how he is "progressive superior". Last time it was about superhero movies :) and I get the same thing, he knows that the new movies and series are bad but he can't get himself to say it because he feels superior for liking them.
I’ve seen people like that. I remember critics talking about the last Jedi examine themes of failure as if that hasn’t been examined in thousands of movies before. In Empire Luke ignored Yoda and failed.
There are so many things wrong with that movie, and the so-called “theme of failure” is a great example. People only grab onto it because one of the characters comes about as close to turning and saying it directly to the camera as he can. If you look at what happens, it doesn’t make any sense to call that the “theme.”
Poe makes nothing but correct choices and gets shit all over for it. Where’s the failure and the lesson for him?
Finn… fails to find the master coder and ends up learning that… there are evil people on both sides… and this lesson causes him to recommit himself to one side in particular? Except at the end where his very rational, necessary act of self-sacrifice is randomly (impossibly) sabotaged, resulting in what should be the death of the entire resistance except that the cave with no back door has a secret back door? Utterly incoherent and has nothing to do with failure.
Rey does not fail at anything she attempts, ever. She is given multiple unearned victories, in fact.
How does this “great theme” apply to any of our three primary characters? It doesn’t. The movie says it does, but the movie says a lot of things that make no sense upon examination, and this is just one more. Even if you say “actually, it’s not a theme, it ONLY applies to Luke,” then that isn’t something you can apply to the defense of other parts of the movie. Not to mention that the failure and the lesson only work if you have a character that isn’t Luke Skywalker in anything but name.
But rewriting ripely will call you a Nazi despite the fact that you dismantled that movie using facts. How that movie became a darling for critics I’ll never know
It had a “diverse” cast of main characters, and shat all over beloved white characters and the world those characters lived in.
I'm not normally a fan of belittling people, but people like that need to get made fun of more. They need to constantly be reminded that their opinions are shit and unacceptable. They are mental slaves and need strong thought influencers to push them in the right direction.