The only time redditors believe in privacy is when it can be used to brainwash/groom/molest kids
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Same. Like, my privacy was respected very little and it made me incredibly resentful. It didn't improve my behavior, it just made me take it outside the home in more crafty and riskier places. And I wasn't even involved in actual bad shit like drugs or sex, just straight up wanting to be alone and given quiet.
I can absolutely see the mindset here of not letting them be unmonitored to prevent all the evils of social media, but extreme measures always just make things worse and it should be handled with the proper nuance between the family in question.
But then again, the type of parent who needs to viciously watch their child to keep them from these traps likely already failed to begin with by making them susceptible to it and is trying to dodge responsibility by blaming others. The classic histrionic mom blaming the school instead of her behavior for her child acting up.
Aye, I think we're definitely on the same page. It took me a long, long time to even start to get over some of the negative effects from some of my own parents' mistakes. And generally, I'll admit, they weren't actually that bad. They just fouled up in a few areas, and we could never come to terms over some notable points of disagreement and friction that just got worse and worse as time went on.
What it mostly boiled down to though was a lack of trust, which ended up going both ways. And their failure to acknowledge or listen to what I had to say. (Man, did I open up more there than I originally intended to)
Was also going to add to your last point, where there definitely are special cases where things have just gone awry, almost to the point of not being salvageable. Sometimes it's due to some mistakes the parent(s) made, sometimes the kid got too far off track, and other times it's just a matter of bad luck, like if a kid has some challenges that can't really be overcome, no matter how hard everyone tries.
Yeah, we are coming from much the same area. Though, given my household was a junkie den I'll still stand on they were pretty bad.
The irony being that they recognized that fact, and much of the stomping on privacy (and many other issues) was an attempt to appear like a good parent doing their duty. A virtue signal trying to mask prior failures.
For sure. Sometimes things just don't work out, but putting in solid push and pull effort to build and maintain a relationship with your kid will do infinitely more to prevent the bad ends than any form of keylogging, privacy invasion.
Aye, totally. It's curious how, even though the measure of your and my own parents' character might've been different, the mistakes they make and their reasoning still ends up being so similar. The same follies, the same kind of faulty logic. Mixed with some self awareness, but they end up lacking the courage to seriously confront or fully acknowledge their failings. "To err is human" maybe?
I've seen opinions pushing the idea that a lot of the cringe "wokeness" is due to parents overindulging their kids or not being stern enough, I've felt that a lot of it was probably more due to the exact opposite. Where parents kept pushing their kids further and further away, right into the clutches of those with a far more nefarious and insidious agenda.
I think it's of little surprise that this happens so frequently in college, especially. Kids end up finally getting some space and freedom from their parents, which in of itself is usually a good opportunity for them to learn independence and to think for themselves. But instead some end up getting cajoled and coaxed, little by little, into a new cult-like way of looking at the world.
Sorry if I'm a little all over the place at this point. Been juggling multiple conversations on here and elsewhere all night so my brain might be a bit zapped out.
I mean, almost every Atheist is born from a parent who made Church and God so awful they resented it. And the Atheism movement was one of the founding roots of the current Wokeness problem. So I agree on that. Even in the "trans" household, its never the mom "letting their kid decide for themselves" truly but an overbearing force pushing them towards their own corruption.
So back to the original topic from the top, I think its less "predators being cartoonishly evil and wanting your kid unsupervised" and "a terrible broken person recognizing one of the things that made them that way long ago." At least somewhat, I'm sure some are outright evil about it.