Let me correct myself (and this source), actually it was over 2/3 of Rada deputies:
Over 300 members of the 424-seat Ukrainian parliament have signed up to an interfactional association called “Values. Dignity. Family.”
The group has declared that its mission is to adopt laws to protect family values, popularize conservatism in Ukraine, and “resist attempts to undermine natural law for the sake of political trends.”
Specifically, the conservative caucus of lawmakers wants to tackle demographic issues and so-called “social evils” such as high divorce rates, abandonment of children, and abortion, Sviatoslav Yurash, an MP and leading founder of the group told the Kyiv Post.
“We understand that to tackle those social evils we need to cooperate with institutions that work with those groups (of the society). Ukrainian churches are by far the biggest social care provider,” he said.
“Life of the unborn should be discussed more seriously in Ukraine,” he added later.
In his words, supporting family values means promoting family cohesion, childcare, and family-building.
The idea for such a union of lawmakers in the legislature, he said, has been driven by increasing global debate over family values and marriage rights, as well as the clash between liberalism and conservatism.
“Various groups that are trying to claim legitimacy from some Western institutions claim that there is a fundamental consensus globally, and we have to get on with it, as if there is no other point of view,” Yurash said. “There is a very strong, very structured conservative point of view in the West. And it’s very important that this point is also transmitted into Ukraine.”
I think by "the West" they meant Poland, which had just banned practically all abortion.
The mentioned demographic trends in Ukraine were really bad. Like among the Russian Slavs, and having few multiplying Muslims unlike Russia. (And very little immigration.)
I should be, after all we've been a Latin Civilization nation for more than 1000 years. Successfully resisted and endured the forced Russification (and Communization).
western as in England, France, Germany, Belgium, Denmark... and the US Liberal Empire that they answer to. Poland is in the EU for the grift [rightfully so] but they dont bow to UE demands [accept migrants or else]. So no Poland is not "in the west" by that definition
The concept of the West wasn't formed with the EU. There's the West and then there's the East (the Orient).
England is just a part of the UK.
The post-WWII France is and always was highly anti-American culturally and politically (even you should remember the resulting very silly anti-French hysteria in America in 2003 symbolised by the idea of "freedom fries" instead of French fries).
Poland is one of the most pro-American countries in the entire world, both in government policy and by all governments (in 2003 too) and in public opinion alike. Rivaled only by a few like Kosovo or Vietnam. The Polish people are actually more pro-American than the Americans themselves, who often dislike or even hate their own country.
Another clear beneficiary of the decline in ratings for Russia is the EU: It has received its highest rating in Poland (89%) since Pew Research Center began asking the question in 2007. And Poles are now much more likely than they were in 2018 to say that the EU understands the needs of Polish citizens and promotes democratic values, prosperity and peace. Fewer now also say that the EU is intrusive or inefficient. A majority (57%) says that the economic integration of Europe has strengthened the Polish economy.
More than three million Ukrainians have fled to Poland since Russia’s invasion, and eight-in-ten Poles now support taking refugees from countries where people are fleeing violence and war, up from 49% who held that view in 2018.
Not quite what you believe, I guess.
Are we in your "the West", now?
Also zoomers vs boomers (I'm about halfway between):
Attitudes toward Russia are negative across all demographic groups, but attitudes toward the U.S. and the EU are more favorable among Poles ages 18 to 29. Over half of 18- to 29-year-olds have a very favorable view of both the U.S. and the EU, compared with only about two-in-ten among Poles 65 and older.
Similarly, younger Poles are much more likely than their older counterparts to say that the EU understands the needs of Polish citizens and that the EU is not intrusive.
America fuck yeah:
Poles are also optimistic that the U.S. would step in if a neighboring NATO ally was in a military conflict with Russia. Roughly two-thirds (66%) believe the U.S. would use military force to defend the neighboring ally. Optimism about U.S. intervention on behalf of a NATO ally has increased by 19 points since 2019 and is the highest recorded since the question was first asked in 2015. Views on U.S. military intervention are similar among both men and women and those with differing views of Law and Justice.
Related, Biden enthusiasm:
In terms of Poland’s relationship with the U.S., the increase in favorable attitudes toward America coincides with a strong 82% confidence rating for U.S. President Joe Biden, a marked increase from the 51% who had confidence in former President Donald Trump in 2019.
Let me correct myself (and this source), actually it was over 2/3 of Rada deputies:
I think by "the West" they meant Poland, which had just banned practically all abortion.
The mentioned demographic trends in Ukraine were really bad. Like among the Russian Slavs, and having few multiplying Muslims unlike Russia. (And very little immigration.)
ONCE AGAIN: i am talking about the west, the US, and western europe.
Am I in "Western Europe" if I'm in Poland?
I should be, after all we've been a Latin Civilization nation for more than 1000 years. Successfully resisted and endured the forced Russification (and Communization).
no
western as in England, France, Germany, Belgium, Denmark... and the US Liberal Empire that they answer to. Poland is in the EU for the grift [rightfully so] but they dont bow to UE demands [accept migrants or else]. So no Poland is not "in the west" by that definition
The concept of the West wasn't formed with the EU. There's the West and then there's the East (the Orient).
England is just a part of the UK.
The post-WWII France is and always was highly anti-American culturally and politically (even you should remember the resulting very silly anti-French hysteria in America in 2003 symbolised by the idea of "freedom fries" instead of French fries).
Poland is one of the most pro-American countries in the entire world, both in government policy and by all governments (in 2003 too) and in public opinion alike. Rivaled only by a few like Kosovo or Vietnam. The Polish people are actually more pro-American than the Americans themselves, who often dislike or even hate their own country.
Current public opinions since the (full scale) war: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/06/22/spotlight-on-poland-negative-views-of-russia-surge-but-ratings-for-u-s-nato-eu-improve/
Not quite what you believe, I guess.
Are we in your "the West", now?
Also zoomers vs boomers (I'm about halfway between):
America fuck yeah:
Related, Biden enthusiasm: