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– SoctaticMethod1 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

It's one of those things I don't trust the government on, as we are talking about a war where the British used a dead body to trick the German's on a fake invasion route.

As for JFK, I think the fact the Soviets were panicking around even asking their intelligence service 'this wasn't us right?' To which their response was 'we know the shooter, but too unstable to use so avoided him' makes me think the CIA knew he had brief contact and thought 2 birds, 1 stone as JFK was a thorn in their side.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It's one of those things I don't trust the government on,

So one of those everything?

Cause the government is not to be trusted. However, there is no strong historical evidence saying anything other than what I just specified.

as we are talking about a war where the British used a dead body to trick the German's on a fake invasion route.

That's just ordinary. To be able to keep it secret for 80 years afterwards would take superhuman ability, particularly when people have been asking questions about it.

I think the fact the Soviets were panicking around even asking their intelligence service 'this wasn't us right?' To which their response was 'we know the shooter, but too unstable to use so avoided him' makes me think the CIA knew he had brief contact and thought 2 birds, 1 stone as JFK was a thorn in their side.

I'm not so sure. Considering that I don't like the CIA, it'll be very tempting to just say yes, so I'll have an argument against them - but I just haven't seen the evidence.

And to be fair, if they were involved, obviously they would do their best to hide the evidence. Which they do. But there can be other reasons why they try to hide the evidence.

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– SoctaticMethod1 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Cause the government is not to be trusted.

I trust them to fuck things up, they're the main reason I live by the ethos 'hope for the best but plan for the worst'

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They really don't fuck things up. Not the things they care about. Only the things you care about.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

They really don't fuck things up. Not the things they care about.

This tells me you've never worked for the government.

You have no idea just how retarded it can get.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

As for JFK, I think the fact the Soviets were panicking around even asking their intelligence service 'this wasn't us right?' To which their response was 'we know the shooter, but too unstable to use so avoided him' makes me think the CIA knew he had brief contact and thought 2 birds, 1 stone as JFK was a thorn in their side.

Kruschev was probably shitting himself. I think the suspicion in the Kremlin was that it was the military that assassinated him, and was going to install Le May into power to start a war. To be honest, considering that nearly happened to Kruschev more than once, it's not an unreasonable suspicion. The fact that Oswold fucking worked for the KGB, and lived in Moscow for a time, means that if the US wanted to, they absolutely could have started WW3 with that information. There'd be no way to convince the US public that the Soviets weren't the perpetrators if the government came out and said: "a communist political activist, defector to the Soviet Union, and former KGB informant assassinated JFK."

It was only a few years since the Cuban Missile Crisis, and his own military basically tried to start WW3 with Castro, without even warning him. Castro actually stated that his goal was to start WW3, and the militarists in Moscow were all about it. Kruschev nearly lost all control. He probably thought the same thing was happening in DC. He knew the military had been gunning for war basically since 1947, and he knew that the military assumed that the best way to prevent a large-scale nuclear exchange was to go pre-emptive. The military didn't know what Kruschev knew: that there was basically no chance of the USSR coming out the winner in a nuclear exchange because the US had basically more of everything, and the USSR was hiding it's nuclear weakness, going all the way back to the "Bomber Gap" days.

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