The reason I'm skeptical is this: some of the very same people who like to cite black IQ scores as proof that they're less than white people, sometimes dismiss IQ scores when they do not favor white people.
For example, on the subreddit, someone argued that higher Asian IQ scores say nothing, because Asians are supposedly not creative. Or whatever. Some sort of self-justification.
The reason I'm skeptical is this: some of the very same people who like to cite black IQ scores as proof that they're less than white people, sometimes dismiss IQ scores when they do not favor white people.
Well, I know you're not saying I'm doing that but, for the record, I'm not. Ashkenazi Jews may very well have significantly more average IQ than Hwites, I completely allow that. All I'm saying is IQ isn't necessarily responsible for Jewish success. Especially when you factor in how much ingroup preference Jews have. Jews hire or otherwise make room for other Jews, over other races. Combined with willingness to do jobs others won't - which isn't even a bad thing - they're able to corner the market in a lot of arenas.
I think if whites or Asians had the same ingroup preference, they'd take over even harder, despite their potentially lower IQs, just based off population. For example, if whites did this in a white-majority country, it would be basically 100% whites in all power. Wouldn't mean they're smarter, though, or that their intelligence is what got them there.
For example, on the subreddit, someone argued that higher Asian IQ scores say nothing, because Asians are supposedly not creative. Or whatever. Some sort of self-justification.
Yeah, that's pretty silly. Asians have done pretty dang well, historically speaking, and have created and invented a lot of stuff.
All I'm saying is IQ isn't necessarily responsible for Jewish success.
Absolutely. However, it is very convenient how societal success for every social group lines up neatly with average IQ score. Of course, this allows the 'IQ is environmental' crowd to suggest that IQ is a product and not the cause.
Especially when you factor in how much ingroup preference Jews have. Jews hire or otherwise make room for other Jews, over other races.
Is there any evidence for this though? I'm sure it's true in the diamond business of Antwerp, where transactions supposedly do not even require contracts, but in law firms?
Combined with willingness to do jobs others won't - which isn't even a bad thing
I don't think it is, I just haven't seen the evidence for it regarding lawyery.
For example, if whites did this in a white-majority country, it would be basically 100% whites in all power. Wouldn't mean they're smarter, though, or that their intelligence is what got them there.
This is an interesting question. But the funny thing is, this has actually been tried in countries like Malaysia. The result? Malays make up most of the politicians, but ethnic Chinese still vastly outearn them despite truly bizarre affirmative action programs and requirements that large parts of companies be owned by Malays.
I got that. Was just saying that people wouldn't care. Ethics don't get in the way of making money.
I wonder, is that actually the case? I've never heard of any such thing, which is not to say that it's not true.
Ah, gotcha. And I guess 'taboo' would be better phrasing than 'unethical.'
I heard someone say it once, so it's absolutely true. ;)
The reason I'm skeptical is this: some of the very same people who like to cite black IQ scores as proof that they're less than white people, sometimes dismiss IQ scores when they do not favor white people.
For example, on the subreddit, someone argued that higher Asian IQ scores say nothing, because Asians are supposedly not creative. Or whatever. Some sort of self-justification.
Well, I know you're not saying I'm doing that but, for the record, I'm not. Ashkenazi Jews may very well have significantly more average IQ than Hwites, I completely allow that. All I'm saying is IQ isn't necessarily responsible for Jewish success. Especially when you factor in how much ingroup preference Jews have. Jews hire or otherwise make room for other Jews, over other races. Combined with willingness to do jobs others won't - which isn't even a bad thing - they're able to corner the market in a lot of arenas.
I think if whites or Asians had the same ingroup preference, they'd take over even harder, despite their potentially lower IQs, just based off population. For example, if whites did this in a white-majority country, it would be basically 100% whites in all power. Wouldn't mean they're smarter, though, or that their intelligence is what got them there.
Yeah, that's pretty silly. Asians have done pretty dang well, historically speaking, and have created and invented a lot of stuff.
Absolutely. However, it is very convenient how societal success for every social group lines up neatly with average IQ score. Of course, this allows the 'IQ is environmental' crowd to suggest that IQ is a product and not the cause.
Is there any evidence for this though? I'm sure it's true in the diamond business of Antwerp, where transactions supposedly do not even require contracts, but in law firms?
I don't think it is, I just haven't seen the evidence for it regarding lawyery.
This is an interesting question. But the funny thing is, this has actually been tried in countries like Malaysia. The result? Malays make up most of the politicians, but ethnic Chinese still vastly outearn them despite truly bizarre affirmative action programs and requirements that large parts of companies be owned by Malays.