Besides that, the death rate of covid has no bearing on whether or not the "vaccines" work or not. They simply do not prevent you from getting covid and don't make it any better for you if you do.
And can you tell us how many of those patients' deaths were the result of medical malpractice via useless ventilators and remdesivir and counted as "COVID" deaths?
Ahahahaha. So as of a time when the notion that COVID has an aggregate death rate of a few percent was the mainstream perception??
I know you're better than this.
A debate could be had whether for some very specific sections of the population it might be worth it, but citing numbers like that really don't do much to make anyone think you're acting in good faith.
"hahaha" the research i cited to was published Sep 22 2022, so recently.
So as of a time when the notion that COVID has an aggregate death rate of a few percent was the mainstream perception??
Yes, and? The "public perception" driven by the lying media is not relevant to scientific research. These scientific studies of the death rates among the elderly are based on real data.
And well-informed people like me knew that the case fatality rate estimates were more like 0.2% even back in May 2020, because I read a lot of research on the subject instead of getting my info from the libtard media. Credible ranges for the CFR in the early days ranged from 0.2% to 0.5%, and as time went on the overall rate became clearer to be on the lower end of that range.
All of the links I cited to you are credible, and you've offered nothing to the contrary. Don't talk to me about "good faith". You're not it.
I did not say all 80 year olds have a 20% chance, but some do, or higher, depending on their health factors.
Of course it is.
"The elderly population suffered the greatest impact from the pandemic, with a 21.8% lethality in Spain as of 29 May 2020 in patients over 80 years of age... High mortality rate in this age group has been observed constantly throughout the world, with lethalities ranging from 14.8%, referred in the first publications from China [4,5], to 26.4% mentioned in the Bonanad et al. meta-analysis [6], or 55.4% reported in the first Spanish hospital cohort published in this country [7]."
So the bolded part above is a lie.
Unvaccinated death rate is far higher despite the population skewing younger and lower risk.
"In August 2022, the risk of dying from COVID-19 among unvaccinated adults compared with adults who received a primary series was 9 times higher for adults aged 65–79 years and 4 times higher for adults aged ≥80 years."
Cutting your risk of death by 75% means any older person would be a fool to not get the vaccine.
And can you tell us how many of those patients' deaths were the result of medical malpractice via useless ventilators and remdesivir and counted as "COVID" deaths?
Have you even asked that question?
Wasn't that made clear very early on that a lot of people who died, died because of the ventilators? And I mean mid 2020.
Ahahahaha. So as of a time when the notion that COVID has an aggregate death rate of a few percent was the mainstream perception??
I know you're better than this.
A debate could be had whether for some very specific sections of the population it might be worth it, but citing numbers like that really don't do much to make anyone think you're acting in good faith.
"hahaha" the research i cited to was published Sep 22 2022, so recently.
Yes, and? The "public perception" driven by the lying media is not relevant to scientific research. These scientific studies of the death rates among the elderly are based on real data.
And well-informed people like me knew that the case fatality rate estimates were more like 0.2% even back in May 2020, because I read a lot of research on the subject instead of getting my info from the libtard media. Credible ranges for the CFR in the early days ranged from 0.2% to 0.5%, and as time went on the overall rate became clearer to be on the lower end of that range.
All of the links I cited to you are credible, and you've offered nothing to the contrary. Don't talk to me about "good faith". You're not it.