We both know about Israel's DNA test. We both know that the other one knows, yet you say this crap. Strategic amnesia is not an argument.
You have nothing in common with Random White Person
What do random Jews have in common, aside from being Jews?
considering yourself a big shot based on literally nothing
Being a "big shot" has nothing to do with anything. My whole position is grounded in white American's interests.
Jews have a culture that goes way back.
I'm not talking about their culture. I'm talking about their ancestry which is what their identity and Israel are based on. Even the religious aspect of their culture (where present) is based around supposedly being the descendants of Abraham.
I don't support immigration.
In function you do. That was the point.
Unlike you, because you are fine with white people coming in.
If white people are coming to this shithole in large masses, it's going to be because Europe is really taking a beating. I'd rather them come here where they at least have people with some degree of shared ancestry. Where else would they go? Africa? China?
Therefore, white nationalism is stupid
You ignored America's history of immigration laws even when it's explicitly brought to your attention. Why is it stupid to revive America's traditional immigration laws?
We both know about Israel's DNA test. We both know that the other one knows, yet you say this crap. Strategic amnesia is not an argument.
The justification for that is: if you are Jewish enough for the Nazis to gas you, you're Jewish enough to find refuge here. Frankly, I don't mind that. And like I told you before, I wouldn't mind it if anyone else used it.
What do random Jews have in common, aside from being Jews?
A history, a religion (hopefully).
Being a "big shot" has nothing to do with anything. My whole position is grounded in white American's interests.
Yeah, that's fine, though I always cringe when you talk about the interests of a color of people. My point is that America has no culture or civilization to defend, not even an ethnicity.
I'm not talking about their culture. I'm talking about their ancestry which is what their identity and Israel are based on. Even the religious aspect of their culture (where present) is based around supposedly being the descendants of Abraham.
And that's generally how religions are: they are not universalistic.
In function you do. That was the point.
???
I don't. How are you going to spin that.
If white people are coming to this shithole in large masses, it's going to be because Europe is really taking a beating. I'd rather them come here where they at least have people with some degree of shared ancestry. Where else would they go? Africa? China?
Or maybe, they come there for economic reasons, like 99.9% of immigrants.
You ignored America's history of immigration laws even when it's explicitly brought to your attention. Why is it stupid to revive America's traditional immigration laws?
It's a different time. Europe's culture has gone to hell along with America's.
The justification for that is: if you are Jewish enough for the Nazis to gas you, you're Jewish enough to find refuge here.
"If you are white enough not to qualify for a DIE initiative, you are white enough for white nationalism." -Once again, your logic could apply to white Americans.
A history, a religion (hopefully).
You're on thin ice with diaspora Jews. Their history is no more shared than "diaspora" whites. American Jews are also very secular yet that doesn't stop you from justifying their idpol orgs like the Republican Jewish Coalition.
My point is that America has no culture or civilization to defend, not even an ethnicity.
You still aren't fleshing this out. "America has nothing to defend therefore..." what? We should just be apolitical nihilist? Are you unaware that people live here?
And that's generally how religions are: they are not universalistic.
It doesn't matter what other religions do. Judaism is based around ancestry so even your intellectually dishonest attempts to isolate down to religious Jews don't apply.
I don't. How are you going to spin that.
You just said above that America has nothing to defend. You have been arguing throughout this thread that, for all intents and purposes, that America is a "melting pot" and a "nation of immigrants." While you haven't said those specific phrases, you are saying the same thing using different language. You are promoting the premises used to justify mass immigration.
Or maybe, they come there for economic reasons, like 99.9% of immigrants.
Europe taking a beating most definitely includes the economy.
It's a different time.
Are you fucking serious? LMAO. That's not even close to an argument.
Europe's culture has gone to hell along with America's.
"It's gone to hell, but we can't, under any circumstances adopt pre-hellworld immigration laws." -what a joke
"If you are white enough not to qualify for a DIE initiative, you are white enough for white nationalism." -Once again, your logic could apply to white Americans.
That is a pinprick compared to what Jews have suffered. I know, it's nothing, and probably deserved, right?
Their history is no more shared than "diaspora" whites. American Jews are also very secular yet that doesn't stop you from justifying their idpol orgs like the Republican Jewish Coalition.
I'd like to see them getting Jews to vote for Republicans. Is that bad?
You still aren't fleshing this out. "America has nothing to defend therefore..." what? We should just be apolitical nihilist? Are you unaware that people live here?
No, that's fair enough. It's just that I think that comparing America to France is ill-founded. Tell me what you do want to defend, and how being a white nationalist does that. I still don't understand why importing all of Europe's SJWs and keeping out blacks who are decent people will do that.
Judaism is based around ancestry
It isn't though. Theoretically, it is, but obviously there was no such person as Abraham. Like tribes, the idea of ancestry is purely notional, as a way to craft some sort of unity among disparate people.
You have been arguing throughout this thread that, for all intents and purposes, that America is a "melting pot" and a "nation of immigrants." While you haven't said those specific phrases, you are saying the same thing using different language. You are promoting the premises used to justify mass immigration.
Let's compare the US to France. Do you see a difference in historical attitude towards immigration? I'm not sure why you are so paranoid about my stance on immigration. I think it's bad, but historically, there was a lot of it in the US. Which doesn't mean you have to continue it! What is so hard about that?
Are you fucking serious? LMAO. That's not even close to an argument.
I agree. I hate such arguments. That is why a sentence followed in which I explained what is different, and how that is relevant to my point.
"It's gone to hell, but we can't, under any circumstances adopt pre-hellworld immigration laws." -what a joke
No, I just don't understand what you are trying to 'preserve'. A country in which you don't get monoclonals because you are too white? Seriously.
Yes
Perhaps. They definitely care less.
We both know about Israel's DNA test. We both know that the other one knows, yet you say this crap. Strategic amnesia is not an argument.
What do random Jews have in common, aside from being Jews?
Being a "big shot" has nothing to do with anything. My whole position is grounded in white American's interests.
I'm not talking about their culture. I'm talking about their ancestry which is what their identity and Israel are based on. Even the religious aspect of their culture (where present) is based around supposedly being the descendants of Abraham.
In function you do. That was the point.
If white people are coming to this shithole in large masses, it's going to be because Europe is really taking a beating. I'd rather them come here where they at least have people with some degree of shared ancestry. Where else would they go? Africa? China?
You ignored America's history of immigration laws even when it's explicitly brought to your attention. Why is it stupid to revive America's traditional immigration laws?
The justification for that is: if you are Jewish enough for the Nazis to gas you, you're Jewish enough to find refuge here. Frankly, I don't mind that. And like I told you before, I wouldn't mind it if anyone else used it.
A history, a religion (hopefully).
Yeah, that's fine, though I always cringe when you talk about the interests of a color of people. My point is that America has no culture or civilization to defend, not even an ethnicity.
And that's generally how religions are: they are not universalistic.
???
I don't. How are you going to spin that.
Or maybe, they come there for economic reasons, like 99.9% of immigrants.
It's a different time. Europe's culture has gone to hell along with America's.
"If you are white enough not to qualify for a DIE initiative, you are white enough for white nationalism." -Once again, your logic could apply to white Americans.
You're on thin ice with diaspora Jews. Their history is no more shared than "diaspora" whites. American Jews are also very secular yet that doesn't stop you from justifying their idpol orgs like the Republican Jewish Coalition.
You still aren't fleshing this out. "America has nothing to defend therefore..." what? We should just be apolitical nihilist? Are you unaware that people live here?
It doesn't matter what other religions do. Judaism is based around ancestry so even your intellectually dishonest attempts to isolate down to religious Jews don't apply.
You just said above that America has nothing to defend. You have been arguing throughout this thread that, for all intents and purposes, that America is a "melting pot" and a "nation of immigrants." While you haven't said those specific phrases, you are saying the same thing using different language. You are promoting the premises used to justify mass immigration.
Europe taking a beating most definitely includes the economy.
Are you fucking serious? LMAO. That's not even close to an argument.
"It's gone to hell, but we can't, under any circumstances adopt pre-hellworld immigration laws." -what a joke
That is a pinprick compared to what Jews have suffered. I know, it's nothing, and probably deserved, right?
I'd like to see them getting Jews to vote for Republicans. Is that bad?
No, that's fair enough. It's just that I think that comparing America to France is ill-founded. Tell me what you do want to defend, and how being a white nationalist does that. I still don't understand why importing all of Europe's SJWs and keeping out blacks who are decent people will do that.
It isn't though. Theoretically, it is, but obviously there was no such person as Abraham. Like tribes, the idea of ancestry is purely notional, as a way to craft some sort of unity among disparate people.
Let's compare the US to France. Do you see a difference in historical attitude towards immigration? I'm not sure why you are so paranoid about my stance on immigration. I think it's bad, but historically, there was a lot of it in the US. Which doesn't mean you have to continue it! What is so hard about that?
I agree. I hate such arguments. That is why a sentence followed in which I explained what is different, and how that is relevant to my point.
No, I just don't understand what you are trying to 'preserve'. A country in which you don't get monoclonals because you are too white? Seriously.