Nah, you love to spin the term 'identity politics'.
Are the Republican Jewish Congress, AIPAC, etc. not identity politics? They seek to specifically advance the interests of Jews, an identity, and Israel, a state built around a Jewish identity. Is the belief that Jews are God's chose people not identity politics? It's a claim to supremacy based upon ancestry. It's "we wuz kangz" for Jews. You're just playing shell games with the definition of identity politics.
They're something beyond that. Their countries are not based on being white gentiles, but on being French, German and Polish.
Sure, and conservative and Republicans would not be supportive of efforts to maintain the respective majorities of those countries either.
Mutts without a culture. No offense.
No worries, a dune coon could never offend me. What's the implication of white Americans being "mutts" ? Flesh this out. The function of your behavior is support of our dispossession and disenfranchisement via promotion of the idea that we aren't a legitimate group and therefore cannot express a group-level self-interest.
I'm also curious as to how you arrived at the conclusion that white Americans are mutts but Jews aren't. Jews include mixtures of everything from European to Ethiopian ancestry. Within America, according to your logic, a gentile of French and German mixed ancestry is a mutt, but adding Jewish ancestry somehow would make them less of a mutt. Weird.
There's nothing to dodge. America was multiracial from the very beginning. Just like other new world countries.
It's been around 80% white until recently and even had immigration restrictions to maintain that until the 1960s. It's really strange how you are using America's history to argue in favor of deviating from its historical demographic make up and immigration laws. I also don't see why I should care that much about America's history anyway. It doesn't preclude us from doing what's in our interest. Again, you need to flesh this out. "America has a history of being multi-racial therefore..." what exactly?
Are the Republican Jewish Congress, AIPAC, etc. not identity politics? They seek to specifically advance the interests of Jews
They do? They care about no one else?
and Israel, a state built around a Jewish identity. Is the belief that Jews are God's chose people not identity politics?
No, that is called religion.
Sure, and conservative and Republicans would not be supportive of efforts to maintain the respective majorities of those countries either.
They should be. Not based on skin color. It is retarded to let white people who are not French into France. Racial nationalism is retarded. You have nothing in common with Random White Person. Hell, as much as you may not like me or disagree with me, I bet you have more in common with me.
No worries, a dune coon could never offend me
LOL! Well, I was asking for it, wasn't I?
What's the implication of white Americans being "mutts" ? Flesh this out. The function of your behavior is support of our dispossession and disenfranchisement via promotion of the idea that we aren't a legitimate group and therefore cannot express a group-level self-interest.
Sure. It's not one group. It's an amalgamation. The French have a culture that goes way back. Hell, even we dune coons have a culture that in my case dates back millennia. That is rather different from considering yourself a big shot based on literally nothing. No culture, no civilization, just people from all over the world coming over and making exactly what you don't like - the cultural equivalent of the generic brown mutt genetically.
I'm also curious as to how you arrived at the conclusion that white Americans are mutts but Jews aren't. Jews include mixtures of everything from European to Ethiopian ancestry. Within America, according to your logic, a gentile of French and German mixed ancestry is a mutt, but adding Jewish ancestry somehow would make them less of a mutt. Weird.
I'm not sure where you are getting that idea. Jews have a culture that goes way back. You may not like it, hell frankly, I prefer Christianity. But it didn't pop up one day like America.
It's been around 80% white until recently and even had immigration restrictions to maintain that until the 1960s. It's really strange how you are using America's history to argue in favor of deviating from its historical demographic make up and immigration laws
Why are you so paranoid? I don't support immigration. Unlike you, because you are fine with white people coming in. Which is rather retarded.
When most of your gene pool does not go back to the beginning of your country, it's hard to argue that there is a continuity.
It doesn't preclude us from doing what's in our interest.
Then do it. I think you have the right to impose whatever retarded immigraton standards you support. It's your country after all, and not mine.
"America has a history of being multi-racial therefore..." what exactly?
We both know about Israel's DNA test. We both know that the other one knows, yet you say this crap. Strategic amnesia is not an argument.
You have nothing in common with Random White Person
What do random Jews have in common, aside from being Jews?
considering yourself a big shot based on literally nothing
Being a "big shot" has nothing to do with anything. My whole position is grounded in white American's interests.
Jews have a culture that goes way back.
I'm not talking about their culture. I'm talking about their ancestry which is what their identity and Israel are based on. Even the religious aspect of their culture (where present) is based around supposedly being the descendants of Abraham.
I don't support immigration.
In function you do. That was the point.
Unlike you, because you are fine with white people coming in.
If white people are coming to this shithole in large masses, it's going to be because Europe is really taking a beating. I'd rather them come here where they at least have people with some degree of shared ancestry. Where else would they go? Africa? China?
Therefore, white nationalism is stupid
You ignored America's history of immigration laws even when it's explicitly brought to your attention. Why is it stupid to revive America's traditional immigration laws?
We both know about Israel's DNA test. We both know that the other one knows, yet you say this crap. Strategic amnesia is not an argument.
The justification for that is: if you are Jewish enough for the Nazis to gas you, you're Jewish enough to find refuge here. Frankly, I don't mind that. And like I told you before, I wouldn't mind it if anyone else used it.
What do random Jews have in common, aside from being Jews?
A history, a religion (hopefully).
Being a "big shot" has nothing to do with anything. My whole position is grounded in white American's interests.
Yeah, that's fine, though I always cringe when you talk about the interests of a color of people. My point is that America has no culture or civilization to defend, not even an ethnicity.
I'm not talking about their culture. I'm talking about their ancestry which is what their identity and Israel are based on. Even the religious aspect of their culture (where present) is based around supposedly being the descendants of Abraham.
And that's generally how religions are: they are not universalistic.
In function you do. That was the point.
???
I don't. How are you going to spin that.
If white people are coming to this shithole in large masses, it's going to be because Europe is really taking a beating. I'd rather them come here where they at least have people with some degree of shared ancestry. Where else would they go? Africa? China?
Or maybe, they come there for economic reasons, like 99.9% of immigrants.
You ignored America's history of immigration laws even when it's explicitly brought to your attention. Why is it stupid to revive America's traditional immigration laws?
It's a different time. Europe's culture has gone to hell along with America's.
The justification for that is: if you are Jewish enough for the Nazis to gas you, you're Jewish enough to find refuge here.
"If you are white enough not to qualify for a DIE initiative, you are white enough for white nationalism." -Once again, your logic could apply to white Americans.
A history, a religion (hopefully).
You're on thin ice with diaspora Jews. Their history is no more shared than "diaspora" whites. American Jews are also very secular yet that doesn't stop you from justifying their idpol orgs like the Republican Jewish Coalition.
My point is that America has no culture or civilization to defend, not even an ethnicity.
You still aren't fleshing this out. "America has nothing to defend therefore..." what? We should just be apolitical nihilist? Are you unaware that people live here?
And that's generally how religions are: they are not universalistic.
It doesn't matter what other religions do. Judaism is based around ancestry so even your intellectually dishonest attempts to isolate down to religious Jews don't apply.
I don't. How are you going to spin that.
You just said above that America has nothing to defend. You have been arguing throughout this thread that, for all intents and purposes, that America is a "melting pot" and a "nation of immigrants." While you haven't said those specific phrases, you are saying the same thing using different language. You are promoting the premises used to justify mass immigration.
Or maybe, they come there for economic reasons, like 99.9% of immigrants.
Europe taking a beating most definitely includes the economy.
It's a different time.
Are you fucking serious? LMAO. That's not even close to an argument.
Europe's culture has gone to hell along with America's.
"It's gone to hell, but we can't, under any circumstances adopt pre-hellworld immigration laws." -what a joke
Are the Republican Jewish Congress, AIPAC, etc. not identity politics? They seek to specifically advance the interests of Jews, an identity, and Israel, a state built around a Jewish identity. Is the belief that Jews are God's chose people not identity politics? It's a claim to supremacy based upon ancestry. It's "we wuz kangz" for Jews. You're just playing shell games with the definition of identity politics.
Sure, and conservative and Republicans would not be supportive of efforts to maintain the respective majorities of those countries either.
No worries, a dune coon could never offend me. What's the implication of white Americans being "mutts" ? Flesh this out. The function of your behavior is support of our dispossession and disenfranchisement via promotion of the idea that we aren't a legitimate group and therefore cannot express a group-level self-interest.
I'm also curious as to how you arrived at the conclusion that white Americans are mutts but Jews aren't. Jews include mixtures of everything from European to Ethiopian ancestry. Within America, according to your logic, a gentile of French and German mixed ancestry is a mutt, but adding Jewish ancestry somehow would make them less of a mutt. Weird.
It's been around 80% white until recently and even had immigration restrictions to maintain that until the 1960s. It's really strange how you are using America's history to argue in favor of deviating from its historical demographic make up and immigration laws. I also don't see why I should care that much about America's history anyway. It doesn't preclude us from doing what's in our interest. Again, you need to flesh this out. "America has a history of being multi-racial therefore..." what exactly?
They do? They care about no one else?
No, that is called religion.
They should be. Not based on skin color. It is retarded to let white people who are not French into France. Racial nationalism is retarded. You have nothing in common with Random White Person. Hell, as much as you may not like me or disagree with me, I bet you have more in common with me.
LOL! Well, I was asking for it, wasn't I?
Sure. It's not one group. It's an amalgamation. The French have a culture that goes way back. Hell, even we dune coons have a culture that in my case dates back millennia. That is rather different from considering yourself a big shot based on literally nothing. No culture, no civilization, just people from all over the world coming over and making exactly what you don't like - the cultural equivalent of the generic brown mutt genetically.
I'm not sure where you are getting that idea. Jews have a culture that goes way back. You may not like it, hell frankly, I prefer Christianity. But it didn't pop up one day like America.
Why are you so paranoid? I don't support immigration. Unlike you, because you are fine with white people coming in. Which is rather retarded.
When most of your gene pool does not go back to the beginning of your country, it's hard to argue that there is a continuity.
Then do it. I think you have the right to impose whatever retarded immigraton standards you support. It's your country after all, and not mine.
Therefore, white nationalism is stupid.
Yes
Perhaps. They definitely care less.
We both know about Israel's DNA test. We both know that the other one knows, yet you say this crap. Strategic amnesia is not an argument.
What do random Jews have in common, aside from being Jews?
Being a "big shot" has nothing to do with anything. My whole position is grounded in white American's interests.
I'm not talking about their culture. I'm talking about their ancestry which is what their identity and Israel are based on. Even the religious aspect of their culture (where present) is based around supposedly being the descendants of Abraham.
In function you do. That was the point.
If white people are coming to this shithole in large masses, it's going to be because Europe is really taking a beating. I'd rather them come here where they at least have people with some degree of shared ancestry. Where else would they go? Africa? China?
You ignored America's history of immigration laws even when it's explicitly brought to your attention. Why is it stupid to revive America's traditional immigration laws?
The justification for that is: if you are Jewish enough for the Nazis to gas you, you're Jewish enough to find refuge here. Frankly, I don't mind that. And like I told you before, I wouldn't mind it if anyone else used it.
A history, a religion (hopefully).
Yeah, that's fine, though I always cringe when you talk about the interests of a color of people. My point is that America has no culture or civilization to defend, not even an ethnicity.
And that's generally how religions are: they are not universalistic.
???
I don't. How are you going to spin that.
Or maybe, they come there for economic reasons, like 99.9% of immigrants.
It's a different time. Europe's culture has gone to hell along with America's.
"If you are white enough not to qualify for a DIE initiative, you are white enough for white nationalism." -Once again, your logic could apply to white Americans.
You're on thin ice with diaspora Jews. Their history is no more shared than "diaspora" whites. American Jews are also very secular yet that doesn't stop you from justifying their idpol orgs like the Republican Jewish Coalition.
You still aren't fleshing this out. "America has nothing to defend therefore..." what? We should just be apolitical nihilist? Are you unaware that people live here?
It doesn't matter what other religions do. Judaism is based around ancestry so even your intellectually dishonest attempts to isolate down to religious Jews don't apply.
You just said above that America has nothing to defend. You have been arguing throughout this thread that, for all intents and purposes, that America is a "melting pot" and a "nation of immigrants." While you haven't said those specific phrases, you are saying the same thing using different language. You are promoting the premises used to justify mass immigration.
Europe taking a beating most definitely includes the economy.
Are you fucking serious? LMAO. That's not even close to an argument.
"It's gone to hell, but we can't, under any circumstances adopt pre-hellworld immigration laws." -what a joke