What is the expectation here? That actors should be personally clearing their prop firearms on set? I can understand blaming producers for a generally lax and unsafe environment, but in the end? Someone loaded that live round in that gun. That’s who should get the manslaughter charge.
I despise Alec Baldwin, but this charge seems retarded unless he loaded the gun.
The expectation is that when you are handed something purporting to be a firearm, you clear it. Regardless of whether you're paying someone to manage it. A gun is treated as loaded by anyone who hasn't visually inspected the chamber.
If that costs film productions a few minutes over the course of a day, I can't imagine how it would be possible for me to give less of a fuck.
This argument is a distraction. Unless the prosecutor is doing some kind of fakeop to appease the public, there's more the story, and possibly evidence we haven't been talking about. For example Tim Pool just had a headline that Baldwin had live ammo in his belt for some reason. Also he was the producer so therefore indirectly in charge of everything including gun safety himself. Also they had kicked the armorer off the set earlier. Things that start to point to his responsibility.
The expectation is that when you are handed something purporting to be a firearm, you clear it. Regardless of whether you're paying someone to manage it.
What does "clear it" mean and why would an actor know that? That's exactly why someone is hired to handle gun safety. Actors shouldn't have to know anything about gun safety. It might as well be a toy to them. Unless they know otherwise, or the armorer gives them the proper handling instructions first.
Putting aside that Baldwin should have learned this all years ago, the person they should hire is a gun safety instructor, who stays on set to remind people when they fuck up.
What is the expectation here? That actors should be personally clearing their prop firearms on set?
Yes. Or at the very least giving a basic inspection. Absolutely.
I can understand blaming producers for a generally lax and unsafe environment, but in the end?
Alec was also a producer.
Someone loaded that live round in that gun. That’s who should get the manslaughter charge.
They should also face charges, yes.
I despise Alec Baldwin, but this charge seems retarded unless he loaded the gun.
He aimed and pulled the trigger, as well as ignored every safety rule. He's liable, no questions. I don't care who loaded the gun. If someone hands me a gun, I don't check it, I aim it at someone, pull the trigger, and kill them...I'm going to jail.
What is the expectation here? That actors should be personally clearing their prop firearms on set? I can understand blaming producers for a generally lax and unsafe environment, but in the end? Someone loaded that live round in that gun. That’s who should get the manslaughter charge.
I despise Alec Baldwin, but this charge seems retarded unless he loaded the gun.
The expectation is that when you are handed something purporting to be a firearm, you clear it. Regardless of whether you're paying someone to manage it. A gun is treated as loaded by anyone who hasn't visually inspected the chamber.
If that costs film productions a few minutes over the course of a day, I can't imagine how it would be possible for me to give less of a fuck.
This argument is a distraction. Unless the prosecutor is doing some kind of fakeop to appease the public, there's more the story, and possibly evidence we haven't been talking about. For example Tim Pool just had a headline that Baldwin had live ammo in his belt for some reason. Also he was the producer so therefore indirectly in charge of everything including gun safety himself. Also they had kicked the armorer off the set earlier. Things that start to point to his responsibility.
What does "clear it" mean and why would an actor know that? That's exactly why someone is hired to handle gun safety. Actors shouldn't have to know anything about gun safety. It might as well be a toy to them. Unless they know otherwise, or the armorer gives them the proper handling instructions first.
But that doesn't mean Baldwin isn't at fault.
Putting aside that Baldwin should have learned this all years ago, the person they should hire is a gun safety instructor, who stays on set to remind people when they fuck up.
Yes. It's expected of you when you're at a range or a gun store. Actors aren't special.
Yes. Or at the very least giving a basic inspection. Absolutely.
Alec was also a producer.
They should also face charges, yes.
He aimed and pulled the trigger, as well as ignored every safety rule. He's liable, no questions. I don't care who loaded the gun. If someone hands me a gun, I don't check it, I aim it at someone, pull the trigger, and kill them...I'm going to jail.