Not to mention they get everything paid for as refugees in the EU.
Go to Germany and get an appartment, food, clothing, entertainment, healthcare and petty cash without having to do anything for it; or go to some borderline 3rd world country and die for the West's money laundering operation, corrupt politicians and an egomaniac like Zelenski. Tough choice.
Can't even send economic migrants from Africa back to Greece or Italy because of "inhumane conditions" in southern Europe. No joke, there are actual court ruling saying Germany cannot do that even though EU asylum laws are supposed to work that way.
Then again, Ukrainians aren't black or muslim. The EU might just give them the boot and kick them back into an actual war zone to die.
Ok so wtf is the situation in Ukraine as the propaganda war has created a fog over the entire conflict.
I know some high up ministers recently died in Ukraine in a helicopter crash, the Russians have taken a salt mine town so can use those tunnels but conflicting reports about how much it cost them to get it, this implies things are way worse for Ukraine than the media will admit.
It is absolutely going way worse for Ukraine then they'll ever admit. The salt mine town they took and some of the other smaller ones that haven't been reported have gave the Russians a direct route and encirclement around Bakhmut. Next to Bakhmut is one of the Ukrainian biggest rail links for the entire east, so if that goes the ukies are going to lose a huge amount of resupply to the eastern front.
In addition no matter how many "we shot down 38 of 32 missiles" they say, they're infrastructure keeps getting btfo and they've had to energy ration daily now. And it really seems like Belarus will eventually enter this war and open a second front, because the Russians have been moving a fuck load of equipment to them and they're starting to practice joint military operations.
Re-open, as your "second front" (the invasion from Belarus) had been already defeated and completely rolled back once before (February to April of 2022).
Belarusian army is worthless and just wouldn't fight, the "Union country's" only worth for Russia is their own storages of Soviet equipment and ammunition (besides of course just the territory, also serving as a safe haven for Russian forces as it doesn't come under attack at all unlike Russia's own Belgorod region to the east that is being constantly pounded by Ukrainian artillery and air raids).
Strelkov sez:
Our command does not need advice. It does not listen to them, and often acts illogically and completely opposite to what is required. They did not carry out an offensive operation on Dnipro to cut through the enemy’s communications between the Dnieper and Donbas. They won’t do it now. And in Mariupol, the enemy left the garrison just enough to order to divert our forces to it.
Now it has become more difficult for us. Everywhere, from the Kinburn Spit in the south, between the Dnieper and the Black Sea, to the border with Belarus in the north, the enemy has formed a continuous line of defense. I don’t know what our military leaders will do, and it’s useless to advise them anything …
So far, there is no discussion even about the capture of Bakhmut, because the battles for this city continue. And it has been under siege for a long time. Therefore, to say that “we will soon go to Sloviansk” can only be corrected: “relatively soon.”
In general, my position on the operation, which is being carried out by the Russian military command in the Donbas, is quite well known and is defined by the words: “It is yet to be done.” All over the world, it has long been customary to bypass defense nodes, to force the enemy to leave them without a fight. And we decided to act according to the patterns of the First World War, and in its worst versions.
It’s hard for me to say when our troops will reach the line Sloviansk, Kramatorsk, Druzhkovka, Konstantinovka. Maybe relatively soon, maybe not very soon. Maybe in the coming months, they won’t reach it at all, there is a fairly large foreground there and the “respectable Ukrainian partners” will not leave it without a fight
But in any case, even if we reach this line, it will be a pity if these cities are also destroyed during offensive operations, as Bakhmut has now been destroyed.
And it will be even more difficult to take them because they are much larger, much more strongly fortified. If in Soledar before the start of the special operation, the population was just over ten thousand people, then Kramotorsk until 2014 was a city of 150 thousand people. No Wagner is enough to take the agglomeration by storm. This will require way more forces.
Frankly, I do not share the victorious, and, as they say, ura-patriotic moods of our media after the capture of Soledar. After all, this victory means practically nothing compared to, just for example, the surrender of Kherson. And even the surrender of the much larger city of Izyum, which happened during the so-called regrouping, but in fact, it was a retreat of our troops from the Kharkiv region.
Sloviansk being probably what u/RipleywasRightLV426 meant saying "Next to Bakhmut is one of the Ukrainian biggest rail links for the entire east".
Kherson city was nearly 30 x larger than Soledar, not even counting all the other towns taken alongside it. They're not very known, because Ukraine doesn't fight "worst WWI style" as Stelkov calls it, so they were being just being bypassed or attacked from the rear and quickly taken and so you never even heard of when for example Velyka Oleksandrivka (more than half of Soledar in size) was taken from the VDV in about 1 day.
Hoped it cleared it up a bit for you (both of you).
1 minister (interior affairs) plus his deputy, as well as the secretary of state.
The point of having a deputy is not to be together, but this reminds me of how much of Polish political and military elite (including the president, a former president, and all chiefs of armed forces) died in a single plane crash in Russia in 2010:
A significant minority of Poles did not believe that it was a tragic accident, as detailed in an official [Russian] report. Instead, they saw the crash at a military airfield near the Russian city of Smolensk as a plot involving Polish and Russian leaders, mid-air explosions and cruel Russians executing survivors. Poland’s Law and Justice (PiS) party turned such theories into political rocket fuel that helped the party sweep to election success in 2015.
Although the disaster killed politicians, military top brass and others from across the political spectrum, it has become a touchstone of PiS’s political identity. It helped the party survive for years in opposition while the country was ruled by the centrist Civic Platform led by Donald Tusk, now the European Council president. The airplane’s wreckage is still in Russia, despite government pledges to get it back to Poland.
With Kaczyński’s encouragement, an entire Smolensk mythology emerged, centering on the idea that the plane crash was no accident. This mythology was cultivated by Kaczyński at monthly vigils in front of the presidential palace in Warsaw — becoming his regular way of communicating directly with his followers. Perched on a stepladder, Kaczyński repeatedly promised to reveal “the truth” about the crash, which he alleged was being covered up by enemies in Poland and abroad.
(And those interned in Switzerland could have been speedily armed if needed in the case of a German invasion of Switzerland, and actually were being prepared for that. But the Swiss didn't let them out of the camps and out of the country due to their strict neutrality policy. They included over 12,000 soldiers from the former Polish Army in France, who then worked on helping to fortify Switzerland.)
That's what Poland did during WWII, and repeatedly. Refugees in France and later UK (Army in the West, recreated after having been destroyed by the 1940 blitzkrieg in France and also in Norway, besides tens of thousands interned in Switzerland until the end of the war), and prisoners and deportees turned refugees in either Russia (the People's Army of mostly young and young-ish men, and often Soviet officers as most Polish POW ones have been shot back in 1940) or evacuated from Russia to the Middle East (the Anders Army of mostly old men, where the average age was over 40 and was accompanied by masses of women and children - and Wojtek the Battle Bear, and where the Jews were allowed to desert along the way so they could fight the Brits for Israeli independence, the famous right-wing terrorist and future prime minister Begin was among them).
The West and Anders armies later also toured the Allied POW camps and scooped any German prisoner from Poland who wanted to join them, and Anders even wanted the Ukrainian SS to join him wholesale but they were in the East until literally after the war (few days after German surrender), when he and the Vatican helped them to surrender/defect to the Allies and escape from the Russians. And this is in part why there are so many Ukrainians in Canada today, along with their monument triggering the libs.
so you want to create an army out of the guys who fled across the border to dodge the draft? good luck, I guess....
Not to mention they get everything paid for as refugees in the EU.
Go to Germany and get an appartment, food, clothing, entertainment, healthcare and petty cash without having to do anything for it; or go to some borderline 3rd world country and die for the West's money laundering operation, corrupt politicians and an egomaniac like Zelenski. Tough choice.
Can't even send economic migrants from Africa back to Greece or Italy because of "inhumane conditions" in southern Europe. No joke, there are actual court ruling saying Germany cannot do that even though EU asylum laws are supposed to work that way.
Then again, Ukrainians aren't black or muslim. The EU might just give them the boot and kick them back into an actual war zone to die.
Ok so wtf is the situation in Ukraine as the propaganda war has created a fog over the entire conflict.
I know some high up ministers recently died in Ukraine in a helicopter crash, the Russians have taken a salt mine town so can use those tunnels but conflicting reports about how much it cost them to get it, this implies things are way worse for Ukraine than the media will admit.
When in doubt, check the currency rates. The financial markets care more about reality and less about propaganda.
One Ukrainian hryvnia is worth 20% less than a year ago. One Russian ruble is worth 20% more than a year ago.
It is absolutely going way worse for Ukraine then they'll ever admit. The salt mine town they took and some of the other smaller ones that haven't been reported have gave the Russians a direct route and encirclement around Bakhmut. Next to Bakhmut is one of the Ukrainian biggest rail links for the entire east, so if that goes the ukies are going to lose a huge amount of resupply to the eastern front.
In addition no matter how many "we shot down 38 of 32 missiles" they say, they're infrastructure keeps getting btfo and they've had to energy ration daily now. And it really seems like Belarus will eventually enter this war and open a second front, because the Russians have been moving a fuck load of equipment to them and they're starting to practice joint military operations.
On a dark humour note you know those power cuts thanks to the reduced energy supply thanks to Russian missile attacks
That's what they are blaming the helicopter crash on, that the lights weren't on so the helicopter smashed at high speed into a kindergarten daycare.
Re-open, as your "second front" (the invasion from Belarus) had been already defeated and completely rolled back once before (February to April of 2022).
Belarusian army is worthless and just wouldn't fight, the "Union country's" only worth for Russia is their own storages of Soviet equipment and ammunition (besides of course just the territory, also serving as a safe haven for Russian forces as it doesn't come under attack at all unlike Russia's own Belgorod region to the east that is being constantly pounded by Ukrainian artillery and air raids).
Strelkov sez:
Here's what Strelkov said (forever seething about himself losing Sloviansk back in 2014):
https://wartranslated.com/igor-girkins-commentary-on-the-prospects-of-russian-offensive-after-capture-of-soledar/
Sloviansk being probably what u/RipleywasRightLV426 meant saying "Next to Bakhmut is one of the Ukrainian biggest rail links for the entire east".
Kherson city was nearly 30 x larger than Soledar, not even counting all the other towns taken alongside it. They're not very known, because Ukraine doesn't fight "worst WWI style" as Stelkov calls it, so they were being just being bypassed or attacked from the rear and quickly taken and so you never even heard of when for example Velyka Oleksandrivka (more than half of Soledar in size) was taken from the VDV in about 1 day.
Hoped it cleared it up a bit for you (both of you).
1 minister (interior affairs) plus his deputy, as well as the secretary of state.
The point of having a deputy is not to be together, but this reminds me of how much of Polish political and military elite (including the president, a former president, and all chiefs of armed forces) died in a single plane crash in Russia in 2010:
Ehhh~~ get these assholes off my lawn, dziękuję! Kurwa!
As I said, here https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/16ZqwMhbDn/x/c/4TpzVhlp4f3 this is just what we did in WWII.
(And those interned in Switzerland could have been speedily armed if needed in the case of a German invasion of Switzerland, and actually were being prepared for that. But the Swiss didn't let them out of the camps and out of the country due to their strict neutrality policy. They included over 12,000 soldiers from the former Polish Army in France, who then worked on helping to fortify Switzerland.)
History is a wonderful tapestry of repetitious patterns.
That's what Poland did during WWII, and repeatedly. Refugees in France and later UK (Army in the West, recreated after having been destroyed by the 1940 blitzkrieg in France and also in Norway, besides tens of thousands interned in Switzerland until the end of the war), and prisoners and deportees turned refugees in either Russia (the People's Army of mostly young and young-ish men, and often Soviet officers as most Polish POW ones have been shot back in 1940) or evacuated from Russia to the Middle East (the Anders Army of mostly old men, where the average age was over 40 and was accompanied by masses of women and children - and Wojtek the Battle Bear, and where the Jews were allowed to desert along the way so they could fight the Brits for Israeli independence, the famous right-wing terrorist and future prime minister Begin was among them).
The West and Anders armies later also toured the Allied POW camps and scooped any German prisoner from Poland who wanted to join them, and Anders even wanted the Ukrainian SS to join him wholesale but they were in the East until literally after the war (few days after German surrender), when he and the Vatican helped them to surrender/defect to the Allies and escape from the Russians. And this is in part why there are so many Ukrainians in Canada today, along with their monument triggering the libs.