I've been on a number of incel communities and know guys that even self describe themselves as Incels.
As counterintuitive as it might seem for a lot of people who think they know Incels, I'd say based on my observations. Incels actually really do love women in a sacrificing manner. They're kind of like chivalrous romantics that believe in the true love kind of stuff. The whole feel like I'm incomplete and there's a hole in my heart and a woman's love would fill this void.
Unfortunately, reality tends to hit and regular non-disney fabricated dating dynamics begin to show themselves. Women want money, status, power and use their affection as leverage with men to get that. A lot of Incels simply aren't valuable enough to get the affection they seek from women. This is ultimately what leads to their rage. A sense of being unwanted. And women treat men they don't want exceptionally bad. When men don't like men, men still have a sense of decorum. Women are outright vicious and psychopathic toward men they don't like.
A really good movie to understand Incels is How The Grinch Stole Christmas (2000). I know lots of people recommend The Joker but The Grinch actually shows Incels better. The Grinch was rejected by women and the one woman he did have a crush on used him. He became bitter and jaded and cold. But what saved the Grinch in the end? The kindness of a young girl. That's actually what incels desire more than anything, to be treated with genuine kindness and a sense of desire/belonging from women, especially a woman he himself has an attraction toward. Once the Grinch was shown this kindness he become a good person, the end.
Incels want to be saved in this same manner. And in this desire that often becomes a fixation and obsession, it might not be unimaginable that the Incel decides to become the very woman he desires himself because in doing so he then presumed to fill the void in his heart by becoming the very thing he desires more than anything else. You get that fixated and obsessed you start to become that very thing. Not unimaginable. And also the LGBTQ+ community is very welcoming to anyone, which also adds to it. A regular straight man who is undesirable becomes a loner. A trans guy gains a whole community of people supporting his transition and that sense of desire and belonging he sought starts to be felt. At least, it's an opportunity. If being a straight man didn't work why not try the latest trend of becoming a girl and seeing how it goes?
Someone here once called them "doomer simps", which is an apt description. The fundamental problem is that what they want is a blue pilled fantasy that doesn't exist. Only top 0.1% gigagchads get anything close. Between women getting more and more entitled to the top of the top of the top by the day and the rigged DIE game in the workplace a lot of guys can't even become betabux. That's why the incel problem is growing.
And also the LGBTQ+ community is very welcoming to anyone
They're welcoming to anyone who agrees with them on everything, obeys their every whim, and subjects themselves to their sick social hierarchy. They absolutely destroy anyone who crosses them, and if that rotten community is one's only source of support it can lead to suicide. That's one factor that's not talked about in causing alphabet weirdos to off themselves. Look what happened to Dave Chappelle's tranny friend after the troon cult turned on him.
I actually don't think this is correct, this is men applying their understanding of the system.
Gigachad - by definition - doesn't care about these emotions. Women apply these emotions when it's in her best interests to keep the man around.
She finds out she's pregnant and suddenly gigachads completely dismissal of these emotions is terrifying rather that attractive.
She finds herself being attacked and abused by another group of men in the tribe, or from another tribe - who will save her? Men are the fighters.
She's uses towards her kids as well, to keep her kids emotionally attached to her so she's taken care of in old age.
These emotions are also used among women towards each other but that's a different subject.
They've replaced every elements that causes her to push beta emotions which turns women into sociopaths.
she no longer needs to keep a husband around because her career is her husband - so she moves out if her chad-chasing phase
with social media she no longer uses beta emotions to for social bonds with friends
she continues to try to attach her kids to her strongly enough they won't leave - but they're no longer going to support her into old age so she's no longer incentivized to insist they be successful - so you end up with just the sabotage into being independent stuff, where she so thoroughly dominates them into dependence they cut off their genitals and disfigure themselves to ensure her children be be so disfigured and unnappealing to anyone else they'll be perpetual dependent toddlers who can never leave her.
Chad doesn't get the blue pill fantasy, he's defined by his inability to be influenced by blue pill stuff. But the incentives for women to play the blue pill fantasy for their own benefit get removed so they're no longer doing it except for sabotaging their own children into being to dependent to ever leave.
Their are actually issues with men in this regard as well, the same dynamics where mens incentives to make their children successful being removed have issues, but you just don't see a lot of that any more.
If you look at who's actually incels nowadays it seems like it's 50%+ normal guys who are just to timid with women - their mothers pour on boue pill to trap them a little to much, their female peers have to little self-interest in capturing one of them long term.
I've been on a number of incel communities and know guys that even self describe themselves as Incels.
As counterintuitive as it might seem for a lot of people who think they know Incels, I'd say based on my observations. Incels actually really do love women in a sacrificing manner. They're kind of like chivalrous romantics that believe in the true love kind of stuff. The whole feel like I'm incomplete and there's a hole in my heart and a woman's love would fill this void.
Unfortunately, reality tends to hit and regular non-disney fabricated dating dynamics begin to show themselves. Women want money, status, power and use their affection as leverage with men to get that. A lot of Incels simply aren't valuable enough to get the affection they seek from women. This is ultimately what leads to their rage. A sense of being unwanted. And women treat men they don't want exceptionally bad. When men don't like men, men still have a sense of decorum. Women are outright vicious and psychopathic toward men they don't like.
A really good movie to understand Incels is How The Grinch Stole Christmas (2000). I know lots of people recommend The Joker but The Grinch actually shows Incels better. The Grinch was rejected by women and the one woman he did have a crush on used him. He became bitter and jaded and cold. But what saved the Grinch in the end? The kindness of a young girl. That's actually what incels desire more than anything, to be treated with genuine kindness and a sense of desire/belonging from women, especially a woman he himself has an attraction toward. Once the Grinch was shown this kindness he become a good person, the end.
Incels want to be saved in this same manner. And in this desire that often becomes a fixation and obsession, it might not be unimaginable that the Incel decides to become the very woman he desires himself because in doing so he then presumed to fill the void in his heart by becoming the very thing he desires more than anything else. You get that fixated and obsessed you start to become that very thing. Not unimaginable. And also the LGBTQ+ community is very welcoming to anyone, which also adds to it. A regular straight man who is undesirable becomes a loner. A trans guy gains a whole community of people supporting his transition and that sense of desire and belonging he sought starts to be felt. At least, it's an opportunity. If being a straight man didn't work why not try the latest trend of becoming a girl and seeing how it goes?
Someone here once called them "doomer simps", which is an apt description. The fundamental problem is that what they want is a blue pilled fantasy that doesn't exist. Only top 0.1% gigagchads get anything close. Between women getting more and more entitled to the top of the top of the top by the day and the rigged DIE game in the workplace a lot of guys can't even become betabux. That's why the incel problem is growing.
They're welcoming to anyone who agrees with them on everything, obeys their every whim, and subjects themselves to their sick social hierarchy. They absolutely destroy anyone who crosses them, and if that rotten community is one's only source of support it can lead to suicide. That's one factor that's not talked about in causing alphabet weirdos to off themselves. Look what happened to Dave Chappelle's tranny friend after the troon cult turned on him.
I actually don't think this is correct, this is men applying their understanding of the system.
Gigachad - by definition - doesn't care about these emotions. Women apply these emotions when it's in her best interests to keep the man around.
She finds out she's pregnant and suddenly gigachads completely dismissal of these emotions is terrifying rather that attractive.
She finds herself being attacked and abused by another group of men in the tribe, or from another tribe - who will save her? Men are the fighters.
She's uses towards her kids as well, to keep her kids emotionally attached to her so she's taken care of in old age.
These emotions are also used among women towards each other but that's a different subject.
They've replaced every elements that causes her to push beta emotions which turns women into sociopaths.
Chad doesn't get the blue pill fantasy, he's defined by his inability to be influenced by blue pill stuff. But the incentives for women to play the blue pill fantasy for their own benefit get removed so they're no longer doing it except for sabotaging their own children into being to dependent to ever leave.
Their are actually issues with men in this regard as well, the same dynamics where mens incentives to make their children successful being removed have issues, but you just don't see a lot of that any more.
If you look at who's actually incels nowadays it seems like it's 50%+ normal guys who are just to timid with women - their mothers pour on boue pill to trap them a little to much, their female peers have to little self-interest in capturing one of them long term.