single mother decides to date the Incel, he isn't thinking he hit the jackpot, he's thinking where was this woman when he was 20yo? She was getting dicked by Chad while she would go out of her way to let the 20yo Incel know he was unwanted.
And when you realise, even if she decides to settle down, she's gonna ditch the leftover incel if she sees more handsome guy for some reason wants her. If the incel's at best lucky, she's gonna just cheat behind his back and still pretends to love him but if that incel's got bad luck, she's just gonna straight up leave him and fuck him for life. I see no winning move trying to have relationship nowadays if I think realistically. The society's too fucked to live and take the advice of tradcon. I'm biased so I think trying to date in the anglo-west is like playing Russian roulette when I already see a few red flags in average women similar age to me.
Correct. I have 0 desire to date because of numerous reasons, such as what you brought up but also something I've come to realize recently. I don't really enjoy sex unless I'm in a position of power over the woman. If I was a Hollywood producer, I most definitely would be using my position to fuck young celebrities. I totally understand the guys that are into this because it's literally me. I find women in western society are just too equal for me to be attracted to having sex with them. I actually find paying escorts more enjoyable than having sex with the average western woman. It's also why I think I prefer foreign women in poorer countries because they treat you as if you have an elevated status and thus the dynamics in the sex are way better. This might just be a me thing but I think a lot of guys are actually in the same boat but don't realize it. It's way so many guys that fuck around on Tinder seem unstratified despite all the sex because the sex they're getting is lacking the "spark" and I think the spark men are looking for is a woman who has a desire to please the man and women only exhibit this desire to please when there's a strong imbalance between the man and women, such as him being rich, powerful, popular, etc... The more equal women are to men, the less enjoyable the sex is even. Lots of guys think this "spark" is actually romance/intimacy/bond but I think when it comes to men, romance/intimacy/bonding between man and women is derived from a power imbalance. Men don't like equal women.
But that might be another topic to discuss. I imagine I'd get a lot of push back on that. Obviously exceptions to this do exist but I also think it's no coincidence men with money and power often wind up in situations where they're using their power and money to fuck women because it's actually something a lot of men find attractive. The King with the peasant girl mistress because the girl will do anything to please the King compared to the hag of a Queen who thinks she's just as good as the King. No man wants that... They want women with a highly motivated desire to please and women only tend to display this when there's a power imbalance. This is why a "patriarchy" where men were considered superior to women was such a desirable thing for men, it even made the sex better.
But that might be another topic to discuss. I imagine I'd get a lot of push back on that. Obviously exceptions to this do exist but I also think it's no coincidence men with money and power often wind up in situations where they're using their power and money to fuck women because it's actually something a lot of men find attractive. The King with the peasant girl mistress because the girl will do anything to please the King compared to the hag of a Queen who thinks she's just as good as the King.
This part reminds me of a lot of Bill Burr rant. Why do all men work to archive the great things and fuck it all up in the end just to fuck the low status women? I guess you have a point a lot of men want to feel power so they willingly go for submissive women that are found in no western countries.
I would say that women in that case aren't equal to men but higher. They already have a home field advantage in that they can make babies, which gives them inherent value. So if this dynamic were the 100 meter dash, women would be starting 50 meters ahead of men. In order to "balance" this, men have to have successful careers, peak physical condition, confidence, good genes, etc. And that's just to get to parity.
When women get careers and status and lots of money, that puts them farther ahead on the 100 meter dash, and so it becomes near impossible for men to catch up to that.
I would posit that men do actually like equal women, but women are inherently unequal to men in their social value (at least until menopause), and because men have to "catch up" to them, the supply of women that are actually at parity with the average Joe is small.
A great example of this is Japan. Look at what allowing women into the workforce has done to their age demographics. Their birthrate is at an unsustainable pace. People aren't having kids there. The amount of Hikikomori has exploded, and why wouldn't it? Women are hypergamous and giving them careers, status, and money only exacerbates that problem. Men over there are thinking "the game is rigged so the only winning move is not to play".
The real irony of all this, is that for as much misery as it causes men, it also makes women unhappy too, but their inherent nature prevents them from realizing it.
And when you realise, even if she decides to settle down, she's gonna ditch the leftover incel if she sees more handsome guy for some reason wants her. If the incel's at best lucky, she's gonna just cheat behind his back and still pretends to love him but if that incel's got bad luck, she's just gonna straight up leave him and fuck him for life. I see no winning move trying to have relationship nowadays if I think realistically. The society's too fucked to live and take the advice of tradcon. I'm biased so I think trying to date in the anglo-west is like playing Russian roulette when I already see a few red flags in average women similar age to me.
Correct. I have 0 desire to date because of numerous reasons, such as what you brought up but also something I've come to realize recently. I don't really enjoy sex unless I'm in a position of power over the woman. If I was a Hollywood producer, I most definitely would be using my position to fuck young celebrities. I totally understand the guys that are into this because it's literally me. I find women in western society are just too equal for me to be attracted to having sex with them. I actually find paying escorts more enjoyable than having sex with the average western woman. It's also why I think I prefer foreign women in poorer countries because they treat you as if you have an elevated status and thus the dynamics in the sex are way better. This might just be a me thing but I think a lot of guys are actually in the same boat but don't realize it. It's way so many guys that fuck around on Tinder seem unstratified despite all the sex because the sex they're getting is lacking the "spark" and I think the spark men are looking for is a woman who has a desire to please the man and women only exhibit this desire to please when there's a strong imbalance between the man and women, such as him being rich, powerful, popular, etc... The more equal women are to men, the less enjoyable the sex is even. Lots of guys think this "spark" is actually romance/intimacy/bond but I think when it comes to men, romance/intimacy/bonding between man and women is derived from a power imbalance. Men don't like equal women.
But that might be another topic to discuss. I imagine I'd get a lot of push back on that. Obviously exceptions to this do exist but I also think it's no coincidence men with money and power often wind up in situations where they're using their power and money to fuck women because it's actually something a lot of men find attractive. The King with the peasant girl mistress because the girl will do anything to please the King compared to the hag of a Queen who thinks she's just as good as the King. No man wants that... They want women with a highly motivated desire to please and women only tend to display this when there's a power imbalance. This is why a "patriarchy" where men were considered superior to women was such a desirable thing for men, it even made the sex better.
This part reminds me of a lot of Bill Burr rant. Why do all men work to archive the great things and fuck it all up in the end just to fuck the low status women? I guess you have a point a lot of men want to feel power so they willingly go for submissive women that are found in no western countries.
I would say that women in that case aren't equal to men but higher. They already have a home field advantage in that they can make babies, which gives them inherent value. So if this dynamic were the 100 meter dash, women would be starting 50 meters ahead of men. In order to "balance" this, men have to have successful careers, peak physical condition, confidence, good genes, etc. And that's just to get to parity.
When women get careers and status and lots of money, that puts them farther ahead on the 100 meter dash, and so it becomes near impossible for men to catch up to that.
I would posit that men do actually like equal women, but women are inherently unequal to men in their social value (at least until menopause), and because men have to "catch up" to them, the supply of women that are actually at parity with the average Joe is small.
A great example of this is Japan. Look at what allowing women into the workforce has done to their age demographics. Their birthrate is at an unsustainable pace. People aren't having kids there. The amount of Hikikomori has exploded, and why wouldn't it? Women are hypergamous and giving them careers, status, and money only exacerbates that problem. Men over there are thinking "the game is rigged so the only winning move is not to play".
The real irony of all this, is that for as much misery as it causes men, it also makes women unhappy too, but their inherent nature prevents them from realizing it.