It's been going on since the 50s and was one of the reasons they assassinated JFK and RFK. They were both very adamant about questioning unchecked power of the CIA and the US involvement with Israel. JFK officially recognized (more or less created) the green berets to act as a check against the developing paramilitary capabilities of the civilian intelligence agencies.
I don't agree with that argument. JFK & RFK challenging US involvement with Israel? Eh... Israel was always doing whatever it wanted so the US IC has always had a strained relationship with them. Israel would kill sources. Israel lied to the US about the 6 Day War, to a point that it's secrecy caused the USS Liberty attack. Israel lied (and still likely lies) about it's nuclear weapons capability. Every politician likes funding that comes from Israel, but the IC has long known that Israel can't be implicitly trusted. They're not interested in being an American lapdog, they are in it for themselves, and it's caused serious headaches for 70 years.
Meanwhile, JFK had no issues about using the CIA to kill the president of South Vietnam, and more often than not the IC and DOD were entirely on the same page, like in basically anything involving Cuba.
He tried to prevent Israel obtaining nuclear arms. No nukes, no Sampson option; no Sampson option, it doesn't matter if the US deep state is willing to sell every American soul for you, you're getting removed from the holy land.
The intelligence community is a lapdog to Israel. How many directors/committee members are Israeli citizens. It doesn't matter if the ground squirrels implicitly trust Mossad, the people pulling the strings are zionists, and the people on the ground are wearing blinders. It's always been this way.
The Kennedys' disillusionment/lack of trust in the CIA is well documented. One of the last things RFK did was point the finger at the CIA for JFK's assassination. They both saw the need for the IC especially against the commies, but also knew that it was too easily compromised because literally no one knew what they [IC]
were doing. They saw the likelihood of abuse and subversion.
The intelligence community is a lapdog to Israel. How many directors/committee members are Israeli citizens. It doesn't matter if the ground squirrels implicitly trust Mossad, the people pulling the strings are zionists, and the people on the ground are wearing blinders. It's always been this way.
I don't think that it's this way now, and it certainly hasn't always been this way, since the US and Israel were on opposing sides of the Suez Crisis.
One of the last things RFK did was point the finger at the CIA for JFK's assassination.
I don't think that's because RFK always opposed the CIA. I think it's because the CIA clearly sided with LBJ: who, if it wasn't a coup, still treated it like one.
I don't really see much evidence that JFK didn't trust the CIA. The biggest thing I see is that he had a major problem with the Bay Of Pigs invasion because it caused a major international scandal and it got laid at his fucking feet politically. The CIA completely shit the bed, and JFK paid for it. That doesn't necessarily make them enemies.
It's 100% this way now. I've had candid conversations with multiple MI/J2/etc personnel over the past 10 years, and on multiple occasions I've been told that half of what JSOC does is mop up after Mossad. Denying the long standing, parasitic relationship between America and her "greatest ally" is absolutely ridiculous. As you astutely pointed out, look at all the oportunities and reasons the US government has/has had to publicly discredit/disown Israel: false flag attacks, espionage, selling military technology to America's enemies, etc.; and yet every time it's treated as a non story by the propagandist press. Imagine if Jonathan Pollard or the dancing Israelis had been Russian or Chinese instead of Israeli.
There are speeches where JFK expresses his distrust in the CIA, as I recall, it was one of the things he ran on. There's documentation regarding him being briefed on the zionist subversion of the "deep state."
If I remember RFK's assassination correctly, he was calling for the investigation of the CIA about 15 seconds before he was shot.
It's been going on since the 50s and was one of the reasons they assassinated JFK and RFK. They were both very adamant about questioning unchecked power of the CIA and the US involvement with Israel. JFK officially recognized (more or less created) the green berets to act as a check against the developing paramilitary capabilities of the civilian intelligence agencies.
I don't agree with that argument. JFK & RFK challenging US involvement with Israel? Eh... Israel was always doing whatever it wanted so the US IC has always had a strained relationship with them. Israel would kill sources. Israel lied to the US about the 6 Day War, to a point that it's secrecy caused the USS Liberty attack. Israel lied (and still likely lies) about it's nuclear weapons capability. Every politician likes funding that comes from Israel, but the IC has long known that Israel can't be implicitly trusted. They're not interested in being an American lapdog, they are in it for themselves, and it's caused serious headaches for 70 years.
Meanwhile, JFK had no issues about using the CIA to kill the president of South Vietnam, and more often than not the IC and DOD were entirely on the same page, like in basically anything involving Cuba.
He tried to prevent Israel obtaining nuclear arms. No nukes, no Sampson option; no Sampson option, it doesn't matter if the US deep state is willing to sell every American soul for you, you're getting removed from the holy land.
The intelligence community is a lapdog to Israel. How many directors/committee members are Israeli citizens. It doesn't matter if the ground squirrels implicitly trust Mossad, the people pulling the strings are zionists, and the people on the ground are wearing blinders. It's always been this way.
The Kennedys' disillusionment/lack of trust in the CIA is well documented. One of the last things RFK did was point the finger at the CIA for JFK's assassination. They both saw the need for the IC especially against the commies, but also knew that it was too easily compromised because literally no one knew what they [IC] were doing. They saw the likelihood of abuse and subversion.
I don't think that it's this way now, and it certainly hasn't always been this way, since the US and Israel were on opposing sides of the Suez Crisis.
I don't think that's because RFK always opposed the CIA. I think it's because the CIA clearly sided with LBJ: who, if it wasn't a coup, still treated it like one.
I don't really see much evidence that JFK didn't trust the CIA. The biggest thing I see is that he had a major problem with the Bay Of Pigs invasion because it caused a major international scandal and it got laid at his fucking feet politically. The CIA completely shit the bed, and JFK paid for it. That doesn't necessarily make them enemies.
It's 100% this way now. I've had candid conversations with multiple MI/J2/etc personnel over the past 10 years, and on multiple occasions I've been told that half of what JSOC does is mop up after Mossad. Denying the long standing, parasitic relationship between America and her "greatest ally" is absolutely ridiculous. As you astutely pointed out, look at all the oportunities and reasons the US government has/has had to publicly discredit/disown Israel: false flag attacks, espionage, selling military technology to America's enemies, etc.; and yet every time it's treated as a non story by the propagandist press. Imagine if Jonathan Pollard or the dancing Israelis had been Russian or Chinese instead of Israeli.
There are speeches where JFK expresses his distrust in the CIA, as I recall, it was one of the things he ran on. There's documentation regarding him being briefed on the zionist subversion of the "deep state."
If I remember RFK's assassination correctly, he was calling for the investigation of the CIA about 15 seconds before he was shot.