On the one hand I like the idea of Tiktok being banished from the country. On the other, I dislike the idea of the government being able to ban a means of online communication because it flies in the face of the principles enshrined in the First Amendment.
This is where I'm at; obviously they will target places like this for "spreading rUsSiAn PrOpAgAnDA," on the other hand the 1a only works if the population is morally straight and not completely retarded. The nature of tictok alone is obviously incredibly subversive, and that's not even getting into the tech of it; still though, the US government is beyond compromised, and cannot be trusted.
It's a genuine dilemma. Tiktok is pysoping the population to death and needs to be forcibly removed from the country. However, giving the government that kind of power just means further abuse from an illegitimate government that will eventually need to be deposed. Neither of these are good options.
The best workaround I can think of is some sort of grassroots movement to meme Tiktok into irrelevance. Could the population be convinced that Tiktok is cringe and gay by some sort of meme campaign?
People are fickle in their tastes of internet platforms. Does anyone here still use Digg or MySpace? So yes, I think that TikTok could be killed through social pressure.
I’ll also add that TikTok is a spyware tool for the CCP. The app siphons data that it has no business collecting, like what devices you have on your LAN for example. So it should be banned on those grounds the same way that Huawei telecom equipment has been banned. The fact that it is also obviously a psyop designed to promote degeneracy is also impetus to ban it.
Maybe the US could draw a line and just ban all Chinese tech companies. I don’t like it since it’ll fracture the internet further but at least it’d be some sort of objective principle to point to. I really don’t like subjectively banning TikTok (even if I dislike the platform) because it’ll set a very dangerous precedent that I’m sure that the government will abuse in the future.
I'm conflicted about this.
On the one hand I like the idea of Tiktok being banished from the country. On the other, I dislike the idea of the government being able to ban a means of online communication because it flies in the face of the principles enshrined in the First Amendment.
This is where I'm at; obviously they will target places like this for "spreading rUsSiAn PrOpAgAnDA," on the other hand the 1a only works if the population is morally straight and not completely retarded. The nature of tictok alone is obviously incredibly subversive, and that's not even getting into the tech of it; still though, the US government is beyond compromised, and cannot be trusted.
I agree with both of your points. I’ll also add that there’s a 99% chance that this will be abused in ways that we won’t like down the road.
It's a genuine dilemma. Tiktok is pysoping the population to death and needs to be forcibly removed from the country. However, giving the government that kind of power just means further abuse from an illegitimate government that will eventually need to be deposed. Neither of these are good options.
The best workaround I can think of is some sort of grassroots movement to meme Tiktok into irrelevance. Could the population be convinced that Tiktok is cringe and gay by some sort of meme campaign?
People are fickle in their tastes of internet platforms. Does anyone here still use Digg or MySpace? So yes, I think that TikTok could be killed through social pressure.
I’ll also add that TikTok is a spyware tool for the CCP. The app siphons data that it has no business collecting, like what devices you have on your LAN for example. So it should be banned on those grounds the same way that Huawei telecom equipment has been banned. The fact that it is also obviously a psyop designed to promote degeneracy is also impetus to ban it.
Maybe the US could draw a line and just ban all Chinese tech companies. I don’t like it since it’ll fracture the internet further but at least it’d be some sort of objective principle to point to. I really don’t like subjectively banning TikTok (even if I dislike the platform) because it’ll set a very dangerous precedent that I’m sure that the government will abuse in the future.