The fact that you don't even know means he hasn't done any pro-Ukraine virtue signaling.
DeSantis is a pro-Israel
Florida has a huge jewish population, but pro-Israel is the dominant position among both parties in US politics by far. Trump was pro-Israel to an extreme degree, moreso than any prior president, and he is your favored candidate.
neocon
No, DeSantis is not a "neocon". I don't think you know what a neocon is. They were a group of top jews in the GWB admin + Cheney, who manipulated the US into using its military to serve the interests of Israel in the middle east by taking out Saddam and destabilizing Iraq. Israel wanted a globohomo revolution in the middle east, and used the US Army to make that happen. After the GWB admin, they all became Democrats, which is what they always were deep down. Liz Cheney inherited the role as useful idiot of the Left and was thrown out.
Wolfowitz is the quintessential neocon, and is basically a stereotype of a scheming jew you'd find in nazi propaganda, except real.
The fact that you don't even know means he hasn't done any pro-Ukraine virtue signaling.
In the interest of fairness, DeSantis has spoken about how Putin is effectively an "authoritarian Gas Station owner", how Biden is making us look weak by being wishy-washy with Putin and Russia, and that Europe, especially France, would fold if Russia decided to invade without the US backing them up (which is honestly kind of based).
The issue with that example is: thats not the dunk people on this board think it is. Being Pro-Ukraine is an extremely popular stance and one of the few bipartisan ones out there. Its only the strange, internet-poisoned weirdos here who think that is somehow a bad thing.
The fact that you don't even know means he hasn't done any pro-Ukraine virtue signaling.
Not right now. In the past, he has, but I am optimistic that he will be able to see the populist writing on the wall and actually show some backbone against the regime as he has done in other areas.
Florida has a huge jewish population, but pro-Israel is the dominant position among both parties in US politics by far. Trump was pro-Israel to an extreme degree, moreso than any prior president, and he is your favored candidate.
I'm not saying that I dislike DeSantis for being pro-Israel. I am very pro-Israel myself.
I'm saying that the Stormfags here aren't the ones liking DeSantis, because obviously they will hate him for his Israel stance, which seems to be their top priority.
They were a group of top jews in the GWB admin + Cheney,
And Rumsfeld, who was not Jewish.
who manipulated the US into using its military to serve the interests of Israel in the middle east by taking out Saddam and destabilizing Iraq
Iraq did absolutely nothing to advance the interests of Israel. It's quite absurd to make that suggestion.
Israel wanted a globohomo revolution in the middle east, and used the US Army to make that happen.
At the time, the Israeli PM was Ariel Sharon, the very embodiment of anti-Globohomo.
I don't think Rumsfeld was a neocon, he was just defense secretary doing his job. I watched Rumsfeld a lot and never heard him pushing neocon politics, instead his job was more about overall military strategy. By contrast, his deputy, Wolfowitz, was the neocon ideologue. Though Rumsfeld may have been swayed or influenced by Wolfowitz.
Iraq did absolutely nothing to advance the interests of Israel. It's quite absurd to make that suggestion.
It 100% did. Saddam was an enemy of Israel. The fall of Saddam has greatly benefited Israel directly, also led to the civil war in Syria, and the Sunni/Shiite rift growing which opened the door to the Abraham Accords and further recognition of Israel by the Sunni side as they see Israel as less of a threat than Iran.
At the time, the Israeli PM was Ariel Sharon, the very embodiment of anti-Globohomo.
I'm not sure why you would think so. Right wing / nationalist political leaders aren't necessarily against promoting globohomo as a weapon against their enemies. Also it doesn't matter about Sharon personally, the Neocons did what they thought was best for Israeli interests.
I watched Rumsfeld a lot and never heard him pushing neocon politics, instead his job was more about overall military strategy. By contrast, his deputy, Wolfowitz, was the neocon ideologue. Though Rumsfeld may have been swayed or influenced by Wolfowitz.
He was a strong supporter of the war in Iraq. I think more than just doing his job.
It 100% did. Saddam was an enemy of Israel. The fall of Saddam has greatly benefited Israel directly, also led to the civil war in Syria, and the Sunni/Shiite rift growing which opened the door to the Abraham Accords and further recognition of Israel by the Sunni side as they see Israel as less of a threat than Iran.
Saddam was an enemy of Israel who was handcuffed and could do squat. It's a bit of a joke. Afterwards, Iraq became the ally of Iran, another nominal foe of Israel.
Regardless, to think that America would attack a country for Israel suggests that you do not understand politics. Countries don't do stuff out of altruism. You should know that.
I'm not sure why you would think so. Right wing / nationalist political leaders aren't necessarily against promoting globohomo as a weapon against their enemies. Also it doesn't matter about Sharon personally, the Neocons did what they thought was best for Israeli interests.
Why on earth would Dick Cheney care about Israeli interests, except insofar as it affects Dick Cheney's interests?
Don't get me wrong, I love absolutely everything about DeSantis - except raising salaries for teachers and his foreign policy (except for his support for Israel).
Now, the question is not whether we would pick DeSantis or Trump if there were no history. There is. And it's a fact that if Trump loses the primary, he will refuse to endorse the GOP candidate and perhaps run as a third party.
DeSantis should be the nominee in 2028, insofar as I get any say in the matter (as a European subject of the American empire, I get even less of a say than Americans).
Are we not falling into the trap of assuming fraud every time elections don't go our way?
My far worse fear is that the regime doesn't even need to rig elections because the population is so pliant and institutions are so corrupt that even the election of a Trump is no threat to the regime.
I doubt it. DeSantis is a pro-Israel, probably pro-Ukraine neocon. They probably like him because of the vaccines.
The fact that you don't even know means he hasn't done any pro-Ukraine virtue signaling.
Florida has a huge jewish population, but pro-Israel is the dominant position among both parties in US politics by far. Trump was pro-Israel to an extreme degree, moreso than any prior president, and he is your favored candidate.
No, DeSantis is not a "neocon". I don't think you know what a neocon is. They were a group of top jews in the GWB admin + Cheney, who manipulated the US into using its military to serve the interests of Israel in the middle east by taking out Saddam and destabilizing Iraq. Israel wanted a globohomo revolution in the middle east, and used the US Army to make that happen. After the GWB admin, they all became Democrats, which is what they always were deep down. Liz Cheney inherited the role as useful idiot of the Left and was thrown out.
Wolfowitz is the quintessential neocon, and is basically a stereotype of a scheming jew you'd find in nazi propaganda, except real.
In the interest of fairness, DeSantis has spoken about how Putin is effectively an "authoritarian Gas Station owner", how Biden is making us look weak by being wishy-washy with Putin and Russia, and that Europe, especially France, would fold if Russia decided to invade without the US backing them up (which is honestly kind of based).
The issue with that example is: thats not the dunk people on this board think it is. Being Pro-Ukraine is an extremely popular stance and one of the few bipartisan ones out there. Its only the strange, internet-poisoned weirdos here who think that is somehow a bad thing.
Not right now. In the past, he has, but I am optimistic that he will be able to see the populist writing on the wall and actually show some backbone against the regime as he has done in other areas.
I'm not saying that I dislike DeSantis for being pro-Israel. I am very pro-Israel myself.
I'm saying that the Stormfags here aren't the ones liking DeSantis, because obviously they will hate him for his Israel stance, which seems to be their top priority.
And Rumsfeld, who was not Jewish.
Iraq did absolutely nothing to advance the interests of Israel. It's quite absurd to make that suggestion.
At the time, the Israeli PM was Ariel Sharon, the very embodiment of anti-Globohomo.
I don't think Rumsfeld was a neocon, he was just defense secretary doing his job. I watched Rumsfeld a lot and never heard him pushing neocon politics, instead his job was more about overall military strategy. By contrast, his deputy, Wolfowitz, was the neocon ideologue. Though Rumsfeld may have been swayed or influenced by Wolfowitz.
It 100% did. Saddam was an enemy of Israel. The fall of Saddam has greatly benefited Israel directly, also led to the civil war in Syria, and the Sunni/Shiite rift growing which opened the door to the Abraham Accords and further recognition of Israel by the Sunni side as they see Israel as less of a threat than Iran.
I'm not sure why you would think so. Right wing / nationalist political leaders aren't necessarily against promoting globohomo as a weapon against their enemies. Also it doesn't matter about Sharon personally, the Neocons did what they thought was best for Israeli interests.
He was a strong supporter of the war in Iraq. I think more than just doing his job.
Saddam was an enemy of Israel who was handcuffed and could do squat. It's a bit of a joke. Afterwards, Iraq became the ally of Iran, another nominal foe of Israel.
Regardless, to think that America would attack a country for Israel suggests that you do not understand politics. Countries don't do stuff out of altruism. You should know that.
Why on earth would Dick Cheney care about Israeli interests, except insofar as it affects Dick Cheney's interests?
Don't get me wrong, I love absolutely everything about DeSantis - except raising salaries for teachers and his foreign policy (except for his support for Israel).
Now, the question is not whether we would pick DeSantis or Trump if there were no history. There is. And it's a fact that if Trump loses the primary, he will refuse to endorse the GOP candidate and perhaps run as a third party.
DeSantis should be the nominee in 2028, insofar as I get any say in the matter (as a European subject of the American empire, I get even less of a say than Americans).
Are we not falling into the trap of assuming fraud every time elections don't go our way?
My far worse fear is that the regime doesn't even need to rig elections because the population is so pliant and institutions are so corrupt that even the election of a Trump is no threat to the regime.