I looked up the statistics on how likely pregnancy/childbirth was to result in the death of the mother historically:
By 1850 it was about 5 per 1,000 births, so 0.5%.
It remained at about 0.5% until the 1930s, at which point it began to drop extremely fast, likely because this is when penicillin and some other things were invented, and modern hospitals became standard.
by the 1970s, the mortality rate from pregnancy/childbirth had dropped to 0.08 per 1,000 births, so 0.008%.
Literally violence, murder, and torture though, you guys. The libs have devolved into a cult that worships abortion to the point of total insanity. And I say this as someone who is generally pro-abortion because it culls a lot of low quality people and future criminals.
And I say this as someone who is generally pro-abortion because it culls a lot of low quality people and future criminals.
I'm also less opposed to abortion than most people here. I don't call myself pro choice because a) It's a not good way to describe my beliefs and b) a man using that label makes himself sound like a simp. It's more that I don't have strong opinions on the subject either way. It's her precious choice, so she can get off her pampered ass and fight for it. I got a kick out of Dobbs because for once the feminists weren't handed their way on silver platter. It's also their just deserts for abandoning "my body my choice" when it came to the clotshot mandates. It's about time these evil cunts face the consequences of their actions.
"feminism" is a morally and intellectually bankrupt ideology. It's funny how we got to see the Left go insane all at once, with the blacks trying to burn everything down in 2020, the trannies flexing their mental illness, and now the total feminist mental meltdown over the clearly-wrong Roe v. Wade finally being thrown out.
And in a few weeks, we are going to have a Red Wave election, and all these groups which are already teetering on the brink will explode in an orgy of cope and seethe.
No, abortion is negative eugenics - the suppression of an unhealthy genome.
In reality, it's mostly the suppression of an unhealthy memome, as propensity to abort voluntarily tracks more closely with unhealthy memes than unhealthy genes (though one could argue at least a correlative relationship between genes and memes, if not an outright causative one).
Worth pointing out, the 1800s had an elevated rate of deaths from childbirth compared to both before and after. This was because women having doctors help deliver the baby (instead of a midwife) had become common by that point, but germ theory still hadnt caught on and doctors hygeine was poor.
Midwives actually had better rates for mother's survival in the 1800s because unlike the doctors they weren't touching sick people all day. Whereas doctors went straight from touching corpses and draining cysts to sticking their hands up in the uterus, which led to deadly infections, midwives didnt handle biohazards.
Doctors of the day were so desperate to look better than midwives that they actually cancelled one of the most important figures in germ theory because he told them to wash their hands before delivering a baby. (And by extension, implied that they had killed women previously by not washing their hands.)
The guy's name was Ignaz Semmelweis and he died in disgrace for the crime of trying to save women from doctors and their pathological arrogance.
"Semmelweis was puzzled that puerperal fever was rare among women giving street births. "To me, it appeared logical that patients who experienced street births would become ill at least as frequently as those who delivered in the clinic. [...] What protected those who delivered outside the clinic from these destructive unknown endemic influences?"
Yeah, you read that right, it was safer to push out a baby on the street than in the hospital. But people preferred hospitals because they got childcare benefits if they did things the "right way," and none if they gave birth at home. Thanks government.
And the dude who figured it out was checked into an insane asylum against his will and died from the beatings and resultant gangrene.
Moral of the story: never cross the government or interrupt their collusion with the medical system.
Also worth point out that most mother's mortality stats from ye olden days only track hospitals, because no one was recording the home births. But hospitals were the least safe place to deliver a child, which drags the averages artificially higher than they really were.
And the dude who figured it out was checked into an insane asylum against his will and died from the beatings and resultant gangrene.
Moral of the story: never cross the government or interrupt their collusion with the medical system.
Absolutely goddamned right. Dr. Malone and his like-minded colleagues who have been smeared and pilloried for their criticisms prove that not much has changed.
I looked up the statistics on how likely pregnancy/childbirth was to result in the death of the mother historically:
By 1850 it was about 5 per 1,000 births, so 0.5%.
It remained at about 0.5% until the 1930s, at which point it began to drop extremely fast, likely because this is when penicillin and some other things were invented, and modern hospitals became standard.
by the 1970s, the mortality rate from pregnancy/childbirth had dropped to 0.08 per 1,000 births, so 0.008%.
Literally violence, murder, and torture though, you guys. The libs have devolved into a cult that worships abortion to the point of total insanity. And I say this as someone who is generally pro-abortion because it culls a lot of low quality people and future criminals.
I'm also less opposed to abortion than most people here. I don't call myself pro choice because a) It's a not good way to describe my beliefs and b) a man using that label makes himself sound like a simp. It's more that I don't have strong opinions on the subject either way. It's her precious choice, so she can get off her pampered ass and fight for it. I got a kick out of Dobbs because for once the feminists weren't handed their way on silver platter. It's also their just deserts for abandoning "my body my choice" when it came to the clotshot mandates. It's about time these evil cunts face the consequences of their actions.
"feminism" is a morally and intellectually bankrupt ideology. It's funny how we got to see the Left go insane all at once, with the blacks trying to burn everything down in 2020, the trannies flexing their mental illness, and now the total feminist mental meltdown over the clearly-wrong Roe v. Wade finally being thrown out.
And in a few weeks, we are going to have a Red Wave election, and all these groups which are already teetering on the brink will explode in an orgy of cope and seethe.
I can't wait. Invest heavily in popcorn futures.
Not so sure about the Red Wave mate. I fully expect another election fortification.
No, abortion is negative eugenics - the suppression of an unhealthy genome.
In reality, it's mostly the suppression of an unhealthy memome, as propensity to abort voluntarily tracks more closely with unhealthy memes than unhealthy genes (though one could argue at least a correlative relationship between genes and memes, if not an outright causative one).
Worth pointing out, the 1800s had an elevated rate of deaths from childbirth compared to both before and after. This was because women having doctors help deliver the baby (instead of a midwife) had become common by that point, but germ theory still hadnt caught on and doctors hygeine was poor.
Midwives actually had better rates for mother's survival in the 1800s because unlike the doctors they weren't touching sick people all day. Whereas doctors went straight from touching corpses and draining cysts to sticking their hands up in the uterus, which led to deadly infections, midwives didnt handle biohazards.
Doctors of the day were so desperate to look better than midwives that they actually cancelled one of the most important figures in germ theory because he told them to wash their hands before delivering a baby. (And by extension, implied that they had killed women previously by not washing their hands.)
The guy's name was Ignaz Semmelweis and he died in disgrace for the crime of trying to save women from doctors and their pathological arrogance.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis
"Semmelweis was puzzled that puerperal fever was rare among women giving street births. "To me, it appeared logical that patients who experienced street births would become ill at least as frequently as those who delivered in the clinic. [...] What protected those who delivered outside the clinic from these destructive unknown endemic influences?"
Yeah, you read that right, it was safer to push out a baby on the street than in the hospital. But people preferred hospitals because they got childcare benefits if they did things the "right way," and none if they gave birth at home. Thanks government.
And the dude who figured it out was checked into an insane asylum against his will and died from the beatings and resultant gangrene.
Moral of the story: never cross the government or interrupt their collusion with the medical system.
Also worth point out that most mother's mortality stats from ye olden days only track hospitals, because no one was recording the home births. But hospitals were the least safe place to deliver a child, which drags the averages artificially higher than they really were.
Absolutely goddamned right. Dr. Malone and his like-minded colleagues who have been smeared and pilloried for their criticisms prove that not much has changed.
Amazing comment, and this could easily be a post in itself