It really has very little to do with men "being owed sex" by women. Most men don't really believe they're owed sex by women, or anyone for that matter. The big issue is that society has placed such an emphasis on premarital sex and random hookups and casual sex that young men are beginning to feel like if they aren't having sex they are missing out on an integral part of life, which is not the case.
Sure, there are definitely men out there who truly believe that women are simply there to please them and be their slaves, but that is not the case for the vast majority of men, even so-called incels. They have simply been led to believe that sex is an amazing, huge part of life, that it is integral to a normal life and, while it is important to a healthy relationship, it's not necessary to live a normal life.
It also comes back, in a way, to the destruction of traditional masculinity. If they can convince millions of men that sex is the only thing that matters, that it is the most important part of a relationship and of life, then that's all they're going to care about. They're not going to focus on other things such as learning new skills or trade or bettering themselves in some other way.
Of course, the funny part of all this is that by convincing men that sex is the only thing that matters, they are completely reducing women to only being important in a sexual way. Although, I suppose that's part of the plan too. After all, we can't have women being motherly figures or caring individuals in a household or in life in general. We have to have them choose careers that debase them and destroy their mental well-being. It really is all connected I guess. The destruction of the family unit, the destruction of traditional masculinity, the destruction of traditional femininity, the sexualization of children... It really does circle back to the destruction of traditional values in a way that lets them swoop in and replace traditional morality with some sort of perverted new age "progressive" morality.
Anyway, that's my $0.02
Equal, no. Equivalent, yes - at least in traditional society.
No answer, very interesting.
This rage of yours, where does it come from? You spout the most retarded crap and then congratulate yourself on coming up with rhetorical gems. Don't get me wrong, it's pretty funny. But I'm pretty sure you're not well.
Can you show me any equivalency on the demand on men and women historically? It’s funny, I don’t remember women being forced by the government to birth two kids. If you’re asking about your “maturity” question, asking a subjective question that you will intentionally attack regardless is well… typical of you. Then again, if you want to play by a set definition of maturity, I would love to stack up against you.
Sure. Men risk their lives in war, women in childbirth. Men take care of public affairs, women of private affairs. Men work on the farms, women produce domestically. For hunter gatherers, men hunt and women gather.
Talking about traditional society. Right now, women are a favored class of the ruling group, while having none of the traditional responsibilities.
They're onto me.
I don't go around raving about a "female subjugation fetish" and imagining myself to be incredibly clever.
I rest my case.
So women were at equal risk? This is adorable.
Name one government in western society that had enforced childbirth laws in its history.
No you imagine yourself clever by engaging in sophistry and subjective questions.
Of what? Death? It depends on the time-period - probably not during the Napoleonic Wars. On average, women were probably more at risk of childbirth than men were of war (nor were wars risk-free for women).
But don't let that deter you from posting absolute crap. You'd have nothing to say.
I think you meant to quote the second part. It's a red herring, of course, and I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue. That there's no such thing as social responsibility if there's this specific law? You can do better than that sure, surely.
Not really. Nor do I go bragging everywhere, in unrelated threads, CHECK OUT HOW I ABSOLUTELY EMBARRASSED Ahaus667! But you do say stuff like "as I always say", as if you're incredible proud of it. Not gonna lie, I'd feel embarrassed for years if I had said anything close to that.
Women do the things that are leftover after men have taken all the difficult and dangerous jobs. That isn’t “equivalent” labor.
Here’s an example. In video game development, coders are overwhelmingly male while HR, community management, and (increasingly) writing and art design are overwhelmingly female. Is this because women are better than men at these jobs? No. It’s because the company has to hit a gender quota, and the only way they can even come close is if they reserve all of the comfortable, easy, make-work jobs for women.
Maybe I didn't make myself clear. I was talking about traditional society.