That's something that seems to have started to really shock them. I think it started with CRT. They noticed that Conservatives were citing Antonio Gramsci, who isn't even super-well known among Leftist authors, and you started hearing them go: "How the hell did they find out about Antonio Gramsci?"
To be honest, much more of Queer Ideology is well-documented in English, and I feel like people have been bringing it up for longer, but with little resistance since the most extreme consequences of Queer Ideology have arrived in the past 6 years. People knew about the degeneracy and statistical failings of Kinsey, but the subject was so outside of anyone's normal academic work that it was still fringe to most people.
Once "suck the dick bigot" stopped becoming a joke, that's when things started to heat up. Hilariously, there are still some people on the Left who will claim that no one says it, typically while standing next to someone screaming it. The TERFs in the UK were at a protest where some of the tranny activists literally yelled "Fuck your consent" at them.
As much as they like to pretend otherwise, the intellectual left rarely actually read any leftist theory. They mostly absorb the ideas from osmosis, and now wikipedia particularly. It's not about rigor and building a coherent framework; it's about using the correct jargon to express whatever idea they have in order to gain prestige. This disinterest appears to have really taken off with the structural marxists, such as Louis Althusser who famously confessed he never read Marx. Zizek comes off the same way.
Spez: Chomsky is an exception and has clearly read Bernays, Lippmann, Foucault, etc.
This, they're not going to engage in any conversation regardless of sources of open dialogue. None of TentElephant's post will be read, none of the sources will even be considered. They don't want any counter points, they just want power. All of it.
They don't give a fuck. They're pedos themselves.
I just want them to know we read more of their own theory and history than they do.
That's something that seems to have started to really shock them. I think it started with CRT. They noticed that Conservatives were citing Antonio Gramsci, who isn't even super-well known among Leftist authors, and you started hearing them go: "How the hell did they find out about Antonio Gramsci?"
To be honest, much more of Queer Ideology is well-documented in English, and I feel like people have been bringing it up for longer, but with little resistance since the most extreme consequences of Queer Ideology have arrived in the past 6 years. People knew about the degeneracy and statistical failings of Kinsey, but the subject was so outside of anyone's normal academic work that it was still fringe to most people.
Once "suck the dick bigot" stopped becoming a joke, that's when things started to heat up. Hilariously, there are still some people on the Left who will claim that no one says it, typically while standing next to someone screaming it. The TERFs in the UK were at a protest where some of the tranny activists literally yelled "Fuck your consent" at them.
As much as they like to pretend otherwise, the intellectual left rarely actually read any leftist theory. They mostly absorb the ideas from osmosis, and now wikipedia particularly. It's not about rigor and building a coherent framework; it's about using the correct jargon to express whatever idea they have in order to gain prestige. This disinterest appears to have really taken off with the structural marxists, such as Louis Althusser who famously confessed he never read Marx. Zizek comes off the same way.
Spez: Chomsky is an exception and has clearly read Bernays, Lippmann, Foucault, etc.
This is probably one of the reasons Marx even said he didn't consider himself a Marxist. They'd already co-opted him.
This, they're not going to engage in any conversation regardless of sources of open dialogue. None of TentElephant's post will be read, none of the sources will even be considered. They don't want any counter points, they just want power. All of it.
A bit like stormcucks then...
Or like you when it comes to women.
Except my ideology wasn't debunked in 1945.