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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

What makes a country "real"? Apparently it's not global international recognition and UN membership for decades

Correct. As we saw from Kosovo, "global international" powers just recognize whomever the Americans tell them to recognize.

And Biden being outraged about Russia 'carving out territory from its neighbors'. It's his exclusive right!

so what is it?

A country needs to have historically existed, not be the debris of a failed communist empire.

That is why Poland is a country and Ukraine is not.

I don't really care where are you from other than being a selfhating sand...POC

The 'selfhating' is irony, right?

I don't even know what you mean by "Covid aid relief", it's very cryptic.

https://www.dw.com/en/poland-european-commission-unlocks-covid-funding/a-62002660

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I was talking about https://culture.pl/en/article/slavery-vs-serfdom-or-was-poland-a-colonial-empire

We had a chance to set things right just after WWI (which didn't end it here until the 1920s but so to speak) and we fucked it up.

With our petty bullshit we even turned the Lithuanians against Poland, so much they participated in the next partition of Poland in 1939 (the Soviet "gift" to them, shortly before the Soviets swallowed Lithuania and commited their own genocide on the Balts, other than the Prussians which came later).

At least now finally we present one bloc of brotherly nations against Moscow. With no territorial claim against each other whatsoever. Fucking finally.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It makes little sense. Russia isn't a threat to anyone. But you have historical grievances which you insist on bringing to 2022.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That's fucking funny how you gaslight me "Russia isn't a threat to anyone" while Russia's killing people like 200 km from me right now.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

And if you're interested about the Catechism thing: https://ank.gov.pl/wolyn/ideologia.htm (comp translate it)

I told you they were fucking hardcore. You can't be more extreme, it's impossible. The WWII Germans weren't that hardcore, they were pan-Germanic and inclusive in various ways, they were just more imperialistic).

Imperialism is good!

Yeah yeah, shut the fuck up. It was the Polish imperialism that fucked over our relations. Including the most widespread slavery (by the Polonized nobles, with Jewish help, and with absolutely retarded attempts to turn the Cossacks into more serfs too) and literal colonialism.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Awesome, ours "global international" power was the first to recognise Ukraine literally instantly after they declared their independence from the Soviet Union. Thank you.

Biden's taking territory from Mexico or Canada now?

Ukraine has historically existed, also under the name Ukraine. Which fought against Poland, and together with Poland.

Which doesn't matter, because no country in the world has has ever existed before it came to existence.

With or without a war of independence. Which Ukraine has now. Not for their first time.

You love your fellow brown folx? I don't hear it from you often, unlike your simping for the modern worshippers of Lenin and Stalin.

We've just asked Germany for like 1 gazillion Euro in reparations for WWII (on the anniversary of the war on September 1).

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Awesome, ours "global international" power was the first to recognise Ukraine literally instantly after they declared their independence from the Soviet Union. Thank you.

Wait, did you really take my comment as giving the stamp of approval to that order?

Biden's taking territory from Mexico or Canada now?

Well, there is the Mexican Cession. More importantly, "we're taking territory from countries that aren't out neighbors" isn't exactly the stronkest defense.

Ukraine has historically existed, also under the name Ukraine. Which fought against Poland, and together with Poland.

Which literally means 'borderland'. A statelet that was quickly extinguished by the Bolsheviks does not count as historical existence.

Which doesn't matter, because no country in the world has has ever existed before it come to existence.

Correct. But would this mean that any made up country is legitimate? If there's a Ukraine 150 years from now, and the people have strong national identity, then I'll say that Ukraine is real. Until then, it's not.

You love your fellow brown folx? I don't hear it from you often

I get it, you're trying to be provocative. But I don't hear you saying you love your fellow white folx either. I like people who share my culture and values, not color. That's why we left.

We've just asked Germany for like 1 gazillion Euro in reparations for WWII (on the anniversary of the war on September 1).

Well, good for you, but until you manage to get it - Germany still controls the EU and is screwing over both Poland and Hungary using its funds. But I'm the bad guy for saying that they're bad.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You done with this convo?

Thought you would enlighten me how awesome was imperialism for all the conquered peoples all over Europe.

Starting with us because why not.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Thought you would enlighten me how awesome was imperialism for all the conquered peoples all over Europe.

Reading what's actually said would solve that on your part. Obviously, I'm talking about colonialism outside Europe, which is what imperialism and colonialism refers to.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

America even let the Phillipines go. Which was agreed before WWII broke Western imperialism, and after first defeating the Filipinos completely. And before this happened as scheluded, defended them extremely hard (tens of thousands of Americans died either defending or liberating them, killing half million Japs).

And Canada means "settlement", and Brazil was named like a mythical island, and Ireland is in English (and they officially speak English), so fucking what?

I love my fellow white folx.

RUSSIANS AREN'T WHITE

Just kidding.

Some are.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

America even let the Phillipines go.

Wasn't worth holding.

Besides, Americans excel at indirect imperialism, which is how they gained their empire in Europe.

And before this happened as scheluded, defended them extremely hard (tens of thousands of Americans died either defending or liberating them, killing half million Japs).

I'm sure this was all because they were concerned for the well-being of Filipinos and not because Japan was their enemy.

I love my fellow white folx.

I hear you talk about it as often as you heard me make similar comments.

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