That's why things like hebephilia, and much more importantly ephebophilia are words. Because they describe the important distinction that is the foundation of the attraction beyond "dudes, gross like kill yourself wow you're just wrong."
Hebes aren't any better than pedos. But ephes aren't incredibly abnormal, and are closer to "abuse of power" than pedos when they commit a crime.
"You should never grade evils, Kruber. For if one is the worst, then you might be tempted to kinship with the least." or something to that effect? Because objectively speaking, and your very next line, you deny your own point. Doesn't make for good point-making when you refute yourself. They're somewhat closer to biological normalcy, against victims with more mental, social, and physical defenses/treatments. They are better.
If you could pay a singular nickel, so a cost exists to you, and change all pedos into ephebes magically... I'd pay the nickel.
Much like if I could change all muggers into pickpockets, I'd pay the nickel. Similar crime domain, but the one does less harm.
Better if both were gone, but if you said "I'd prefer to keep the nickel and keep those pedos around", I'd be highly suspect of you.
Pedo is pre puberty. Hebe is early puberty. A minor difference, but one so irrelevant to the damage caused that they are no better. Its not grading evil, its defining the sin.
I'd also pay the nickel, but the ephes are still criminal at times because the law exists regarding age of consent. If they are not foul of it, then its not a crime but it is slightly suspect if their only desire is for those still in the immaturity of teen years.
That's why things like hebephilia, and much more importantly ephebophilia are words.
The professions of psychology and the law - the only two that matter on this topic - do not recognize those words at all. Reddit gets into those words for some reason, but they're just kind of made up and ass pulled.
Was literally taught them in my psyche undergrad. There has been over a decade of debate over the hebe inclusion, wherein the big block against it was the abuse of it to avoid stigmatization.
I don't care about reddit. I care about properly defining crimes with real criteria. DSM 5 putting pedo to 13 or lower and absorbing hebe is fine, the two are barely any different in suffering caused.
That's why things like hebephilia, and much more importantly ephebophilia are words. Because they describe the important distinction that is the foundation of the attraction beyond "dudes, gross like kill yourself wow you're just wrong."
Hebes aren't any better than pedos. But ephes aren't incredibly abnormal, and are closer to "abuse of power" than pedos when they commit a crime.
"You should never grade evils, Kruber. For if one is the worst, then you might be tempted to kinship with the least." or something to that effect? Because objectively speaking, and your very next line, you deny your own point. Doesn't make for good point-making when you refute yourself. They're somewhat closer to biological normalcy, against victims with more mental, social, and physical defenses/treatments. They are better.
If you could pay a singular nickel, so a cost exists to you, and change all pedos into ephebes magically... I'd pay the nickel.
Much like if I could change all muggers into pickpockets, I'd pay the nickel. Similar crime domain, but the one does less harm.
Better if both were gone, but if you said "I'd prefer to keep the nickel and keep those pedos around", I'd be highly suspect of you.
Pedo is pre puberty. Hebe is early puberty. A minor difference, but one so irrelevant to the damage caused that they are no better. Its not grading evil, its defining the sin.
I'd also pay the nickel, but the ephes are still criminal at times because the law exists regarding age of consent. If they are not foul of it, then its not a crime but it is slightly suspect if their only desire is for those still in the immaturity of teen years.
The professions of psychology and the law - the only two that matter on this topic - do not recognize those words at all. Reddit gets into those words for some reason, but they're just kind of made up and ass pulled.
Was literally taught them in my psyche undergrad. There has been over a decade of debate over the hebe inclusion, wherein the big block against it was the abuse of it to avoid stigmatization.
I don't care about reddit. I care about properly defining crimes with real criteria. DSM 5 putting pedo to 13 or lower and absorbing hebe is fine, the two are barely any different in suffering caused.