This is a perfect illustration of how imbecilic the drones on the left have become.
They don't understand and/or don't care at all about abuse of the law or blatant institutional corruption as long as it's used against "the enemy."
Not a thought occurs about how this destroys trust, and can be used against them when the power changes hands, only the mindless reflex in their tiny planarian ganglia that sees criticizing the abuse as defending the enemy.
But this is the norm now. The only thing shocking is Cuomo being the first Democrat I've seen criticizing the raid.
Not a thought occurs about how this destroys trust, and can be used against them when the power changes hands
Hate to sound too Alex Jonesy or blackpilled, but does power ever change hands?
Who was really in control when Trump was president? He was in charge, but not in control. There was a permanent bureaucracy that surrounded him and made sure he could do nothing that impeded their agenda in any way.
It is not the president who rules, but the people who constrain him - the elites. If our vote mattered, there would be no elections. (Which is NOT to say don't vote.)
only the mindless reflex in their tiny planarian ganglia that sees criticizing the abuse as defending the enemy.
I like to think that most right-wingers would not be happy if Barack Obama was arrested on some trumped-up charges, but unfortunately, human nature being as it is - I think they would react in precisely the same way.
Of course, people always have a fig-leaf - the charges against our opponent are real, those against our guy are fake.
But this is the norm now. The only thing shocking is Cuomo being the first Democrat I've seen criticizing the raid.
He's in the pit. It's not left vs. right. It's the establishment vs. the pit. Long live the pit.
Claiming Cuomo is anything but Team Establishment is the hopium. Cuomo "standing up for the rule of law" is pure kayfabe for the mass-voter to consume.
Hate to sound too Alex Jonesy or blackpilled, but does power ever change hands?
I was thinking this as I was typing, but also this:
If Trump was never a real threat to The Establishment, why have they been unrelentingly working to destroy him for the past six years?
I think Trump could have done much more, but he made mistakes. He chooses allies based on their flattery of him, and thus surrounded himself with swamp creatures. He lacked focus to get specific things done (like the wall).
Even so, the endless anti-Trump hysteria tells me The Establishment is not comfortable with him around.
I like to think that most right-wingers would not be happy if Barack Obama was arrested on some trumped-up charges, but unfortunately, human nature being as it is - I think they would react in precisely the same way.
I agree with this. In fact, I think most people don't really think, they just rearrange their prejudices. There's definitely the crowd on the right that would probably cheer if Trump personally popped a cap in Hillary.
But generally on the conservative side at least the pundits and politicians still recognize the importance of the Constitution and rule of law. I've seen high ranking Democratic lawyers basically posting "lol cry more" to legal criticisms of the raid.
He's in the pit. It's not left vs. right. It's the establishment vs. the pit. Long live the pit.
Just because someone's in the pit doesn't mean I trust them. A slimeball like Cuomo is only in the pit until he can find a way to get back into power.
If Trump was never a real threat to The Establishment, why have they been unrelentingly working to destroy him for the past six years?
Why did the consul Opimus murder Gaius Gracchus and 2000 of his followers without a trial? Perhaps as a warning for anyone in the future. That is the pessimistic answer. The optimistic answer is that they thought he was a threat.
But they were always their worst enemy. Trump was not competent or effective enough to really get in their way. Their reaction to Trump is what woke a lot of people up to their true nature.
Even so, the endless anti-Trump hysteria tells me The Establishment is not comfortable with him around.
They definitely don't want him to be a factor. But that is not the same as him actually being in control or 'in power' when in office.
But generally on the conservative side at least the pundits and politicians still recognize the importance of the Constitution and rule of law. I've seen high ranking Democratic lawyers basically posting "lol cry more" to legal criticisms of the raid.
There is a difference in temperament, though I think the 'populist right' is closer to the left in terms of temperament than to proper Burkean conservatives of the world. I say this while 'populist right' probably best describes me. I always have to fight back against my instinct that "everything is rotten, so it is desirable that everything burn down".
There is also an escalatory cycle where if they do something to us, then we won't mind if ours do it to them. It's the road to perdition, but then again, just turning the 90000th cheek hasn't done the right any good either.
Just because someone's in the pit doesn't mean I trust them. A slimeball like Cuomo is only in the pit until he can find a way to get back into power.
No need to trust them. In fact, it's not advisable. But if he can inflict damage on the establishment, I will cheer that.
There is a difference in temperament, though I think the 'populist right' is closer to the left in terms of temperament than to proper Burkean conservatives of the world.
There's always the lowest common denominator types in any group, who know nothing other than "my team good, your team bad."
I think the populist right is more vulnerable to this because, as I've said before, MAGA is a slogan, not a philosophy, so there isn't really a firm set of principles as a foundation.
The left has an ideology, but it is based in grievance, resentment, and group identity, and it explicitly rejects reason, so mindless, intense tribalism is a feature, not a bug.
There is also an escalatory cycle where if they do something to us, then we won't mind if ours do it to them. It's the road to perdition, but then again, just turning the 90000th cheek hasn't done the right any good either.
I believe in keeping to a set of principles, but I don't think letting yourself get repeatedly buttfucked by your enemies makes you "the bigger man."
The Left only understands one thing — power. They can be fought without sinking to their level, but it requires actual leaders with actual backbone, who understand this and will properly use their power to kick the commies out of their positions of power (e.g. DeSantis completely legally having police remove the commie State Attorney from his job).
The feckless turds who comprise the majority of the Republican party won't do this, which is why the populist right now exists.
I always have to fight back against my instinct that "everything is rotten, so it is desirable that everything burn down".
My reaction to Obama being arrested would depend entirely on a) whether or not he actually did anything illegal and b) whether or not democrats set a precedent with prior arrests. Order of events matters. In fact, it’s the basis for much of our morality.
Leftists, liberals, and democrats see themselves and everyone under their tent as "the good guys" and everyone else as "the bad guys." They also believe the ends always justify the means.
It doesn't take a genius to see where that mindset will lead.
They don't understand and/or don't care at all about abuse of the law or blatant institutional corruption as long as it's used against "the enemy."
They never did. All the so-called adults in the room (except maybe Cuomo) who had vapors about Trump's threat to democracy because he talked smack about (e.g.) cracking down on libel or "Lock Her Up" (even though he didn't do anything about either) are OK with cracking down on Alex Jones and the raid on Mar-a-Lago. It's all who/whom and it never was anything else, and the ones claiming to be the reasonable people are just leftists who managed to keep the foam off their chins.
Leftists media and academia pushed fallacies of origin and association so hard that now a large chunk of the population thinks these are valid arguments. These people think a verifiable fact can be wrong if it comes from the wrong source or benefits the wrong party. It’s all exactly as Yuri predicted.
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This is a perfect illustration of how imbecilic the drones on the left have become.
They don't understand and/or don't care at all about abuse of the law or blatant institutional corruption as long as it's used against "the enemy."
Not a thought occurs about how this destroys trust, and can be used against them when the power changes hands, only the mindless reflex in their tiny planarian ganglia that sees criticizing the abuse as defending the enemy.
But this is the norm now. The only thing shocking is Cuomo being the first Democrat I've seen criticizing the raid.
Hate to sound too Alex Jonesy or blackpilled, but does power ever change hands?
Who was really in control when Trump was president? He was in charge, but not in control. There was a permanent bureaucracy that surrounded him and made sure he could do nothing that impeded their agenda in any way.
It is not the president who rules, but the people who constrain him - the elites. If our vote mattered, there would be no elections. (Which is NOT to say don't vote.)
I like to think that most right-wingers would not be happy if Barack Obama was arrested on some trumped-up charges, but unfortunately, human nature being as it is - I think they would react in precisely the same way.
Of course, people always have a fig-leaf - the charges against our opponent are real, those against our guy are fake.
He's in the pit. It's not left vs. right. It's the establishment vs. the pit. Long live the pit.
I cannot believe you typed this out when the subject at hand is Cuomo, whatever medical grade hopium you're huffing must be strong.
It's not hopium. I'm not under any illusion that Cuomo is going tot be of any use.
But it is the pit vs. the establishment.
Claiming Cuomo is anything but Team Establishment is the hopium. Cuomo "standing up for the rule of law" is pure kayfabe for the mass-voter to consume.
I was thinking this as I was typing, but also this:
If Trump was never a real threat to The Establishment, why have they been unrelentingly working to destroy him for the past six years?
I think Trump could have done much more, but he made mistakes. He chooses allies based on their flattery of him, and thus surrounded himself with swamp creatures. He lacked focus to get specific things done (like the wall).
Even so, the endless anti-Trump hysteria tells me The Establishment is not comfortable with him around.
I agree with this. In fact, I think most people don't really think, they just rearrange their prejudices. There's definitely the crowd on the right that would probably cheer if Trump personally popped a cap in Hillary.
But generally on the conservative side at least the pundits and politicians still recognize the importance of the Constitution and rule of law. I've seen high ranking Democratic lawyers basically posting "lol cry more" to legal criticisms of the raid.
Just because someone's in the pit doesn't mean I trust them. A slimeball like Cuomo is only in the pit until he can find a way to get back into power.
Why did the consul Opimus murder Gaius Gracchus and 2000 of his followers without a trial? Perhaps as a warning for anyone in the future. That is the pessimistic answer. The optimistic answer is that they thought he was a threat.
But they were always their worst enemy. Trump was not competent or effective enough to really get in their way. Their reaction to Trump is what woke a lot of people up to their true nature.
They definitely don't want him to be a factor. But that is not the same as him actually being in control or 'in power' when in office.
There is a difference in temperament, though I think the 'populist right' is closer to the left in terms of temperament than to proper Burkean conservatives of the world. I say this while 'populist right' probably best describes me. I always have to fight back against my instinct that "everything is rotten, so it is desirable that everything burn down".
There is also an escalatory cycle where if they do something to us, then we won't mind if ours do it to them. It's the road to perdition, but then again, just turning the 90000th cheek hasn't done the right any good either.
No need to trust them. In fact, it's not advisable. But if he can inflict damage on the establishment, I will cheer that.
There's always the lowest common denominator types in any group, who know nothing other than "my team good, your team bad."
I think the populist right is more vulnerable to this because, as I've said before, MAGA is a slogan, not a philosophy, so there isn't really a firm set of principles as a foundation.
The left has an ideology, but it is based in grievance, resentment, and group identity, and it explicitly rejects reason, so mindless, intense tribalism is a feature, not a bug.
I believe in keeping to a set of principles, but I don't think letting yourself get repeatedly buttfucked by your enemies makes you "the bigger man."
The Left only understands one thing — power. They can be fought without sinking to their level, but it requires actual leaders with actual backbone, who understand this and will properly use their power to kick the commies out of their positions of power (e.g. DeSantis completely legally having police remove the commie State Attorney from his job).
The feckless turds who comprise the majority of the Republican party won't do this, which is why the populist right now exists.
I feel this.
My reaction to Obama being arrested would depend entirely on a) whether or not he actually did anything illegal and b) whether or not democrats set a precedent with prior arrests. Order of events matters. In fact, it’s the basis for much of our morality.
There's one thing that needs to be made clear:
Leftists, liberals, and democrats see themselves and everyone under their tent as "the good guys" and everyone else as "the bad guys." They also believe the ends always justify the means.
It doesn't take a genius to see where that mindset will lead.
They never did. All the so-called adults in the room (except maybe Cuomo) who had vapors about Trump's threat to democracy because he talked smack about (e.g.) cracking down on libel or "Lock Her Up" (even though he didn't do anything about either) are OK with cracking down on Alex Jones and the raid on Mar-a-Lago. It's all who/whom and it never was anything else, and the ones claiming to be the reasonable people are just leftists who managed to keep the foam off their chins.
Leftists media and academia pushed fallacies of origin and association so hard that now a large chunk of the population thinks these are valid arguments. These people think a verifiable fact can be wrong if it comes from the wrong source or benefits the wrong party. It’s all exactly as Yuri predicted.