I know I need to get off of FB but I got this in a Star Wars EU group I'm in and I simply asked the guy who posted it if he thinks he is saying something important? I definitely noticed a big change within the past years in certain fandoms so that isn't just my imagination. But anyways, how would y'all respond and since this is a common thing about current woke "fans" is there anything to rebut this? I know Eric July did a video a while back in regards to comic books.
Forever taking risks since TOS. FOR THE UNEDUCATED. • X-Men is about civil rights. If you didn’t get that, you didn’t get X-Men. • Black Panther is about civil rights. If you didn’t get that, you didn’t get Black Panther. • Captain America literally fought nazis. He is the embodiment of fighting the alt-right. If you didn’t get that, you didn’t get Captain America. • The Empire in Star Wars is fascist. The Rebel alliance are Anti-Fascist. If you didn’t get that, you didn’t get Star Wars. • Doctor Who was about an alien fighting for all of humanity in spite of totalitarian regimes. If you don't get that, you don't get Doctor Who. • The Punisher isn’t meant to be a role model for police or armed forces. So much so that the writers of The Punisher made him actively speak out against it in a comic. If you didn’t get that, you didn’t get The Punisher. • Deadpool is queer. He’s pansexual. Fact. If you didn’t get that you didn’t get Deadpool. • Star Trek is about equality for all genders, races and sexualities. As early as the mid-60s it was taking a pro-choice stance and defending women’s right to choose. One of its clearest themes is accepting different cultures and appearances and working together for peace. (It’s also anti-capitalist and pro-vegan). If you didn’t get that, you didn’t get Star Trek. • Superman and Wonder Woman (and a whole host of other superheroes) are immigrants. The stance of those comics is pro-immigration and pro-equality and acceptance. If you didn’t get that, you didn’t get Superman or Wonder Woman. • Stan Lee said, “Racism and bigotry are among the deadliest social ills plaguing the world today.” If you’re bigoted or racist, you didn’t get any of the characters Stan Lee created. • The stories we grew up with all taught us to value other people and cultures and to treasure the differences between us. Only villains were xenophobic, or sexist, or racist, or totalitarian. I can’t understand how anyone can have missed that. • If you’re upset that there’s a black Spider-Man, or a black Captain America, or a female Thor, or that Ms. Marvel is Muslim, or that Captain Marvel was pro-feminism or any of the other things right-wing “fans” say is “stealing their childhood” - you never got it in the first place. The things you claim are now “pandering to the lefties” were never on your side, to begin with. If you consider yourself a fan of these things, but you still think the LGBTQ+ community is too “in your face”, or have a problem with Black Lives Matter, or want to “take the country back from immigrants”, then you’re not really a fan at all. Geek culture isn’t suddenly left-wing... it always was. You just grew up to be intolerant. You became the villain in the stories you used to love.
Has X-Men gone out of its way to have parents, teachers, and family doctors conducting dangerous biological experiments on children to turn them into mutants, and have those people be the good guys?
Everything that makes Wakanda great; the exact same thing is considered evil in White western nations.
Star Trek? Anti-capitalist and Vegan? Make the fucking replicator, or shut the fuck up. And tolerating other cultures does not mean destroying your own.
The "anti-bigotry" preachers are by far the most bigoted people on the fucking planet, and have no place lecturing anyone on racism and bigotry.
Having an 'insert trait insert hero' or an 'insert trait insert hero' was never good storytelling, it was always lazy culture-destroying identity propaganda. That much was made clear with their inability to ever make original characters to fulfill that task.
Great point. I responded to him and the dude deleted his post. Honestly back then a “treat people how you want to be treated” message was pretty clear. Not so much now
Then it was probably a copypasta reposted for cheap virtue points. Not worth it to them if they get any pushback.
It is. It made its way around Twitter a while back. Verbatim
I’ve seen shorter variations but never any this long.
I despise how they simply take any good trait and apply it to themselves.
Even TNG which was probably the peak of woke Trek before the recent resurgence had settlers living hard lives on distant planets because clearly pod life on Earth was not good. Even then it's unclear how the Siskos kept their jam-ba-laya restaurant and the Picards their vineyard. Maybe they fill out a form to explain the historical significance of their holdings or maybe that's why they were in Star Fleet. Want to keep your bougie landholdings? Well, sign up and hope you make at least Captain.
Want that same opportunity to have fucking anything besides porn and replicator hot pockets? Well better ship out to a barren hostile planet on the border of the neutral zone where you will definitely be assimilated by the Borg or murdered by Romulans.
I suddenly have more respect for the character of Neelix. Even if he pretty much did nothing but cook and exist, HE COOKED.
Dude was Chief Morale Officer.
And no one argued his self-imposed promotion.
He is a hobbit hero. He took inedible things and made them, while not palatable, at least edible, on a food-starved and resource-zeroed mission.
Plot-twist: Earth is an anarcho-capitalist utopia, and Picard and Sisko are wealthy land barons who swashbuckle around the galaxy for fun. Their families run the vineyard/restaurant as a hobby.
Yup, having actual characters who had specific traits has never been a barrier to good writing. Benjamin Sisko being a good example - good character first, black guy a distant second.
The problem is modern writers are terrified of giving a black (or female, or gay, or, or...) character the character flaws to work around that would make them, well, a character. So you're left with the same cardboard cut-out character that fits into any of their preferred characteristics because underneath the palette swapping it's the same Mary Sue wearing a different skinsuit. That's all such a politically safe character can ever be.
Aka the Galbrush Threepwood paradox. (search it)
Even good examples of minorities in media, like Sisko, are terrible because the media companies go to extreme lengths to filter the best of the best of a minority to represent that minority. A lot of idiot leftists don't interact with blacks on a daily basis, so they see characters like Sisko on TV and think they're just like us and that leads them to making lots of mistakes of judgement.
Write a White dude, cast a Black actor, claim it's representation.
It's way worse than that. They take the most presentable, stable, well adjusted, and intelligent of the group and put them in front of the camera. Literally the top 0.1% of blacks. Possibly even smaller. And this is on top of, as you note, reciting a script written by a non-black.
And this is the image that most libtards use to make their moral judgements on.
That actually did come to mind, though he only targeted a certain conference with representatives. And didn't know that he wasn't actually turning them into mutants, but slowly degenerating their cellular structures until all that's left is just water.
Try to forcibly turn people "diverse." They die from it.
I suspect the device not actually working as intended was to keep the plot morally unambiguous. There isn't any room for sympathetic bad guys in Hollywood.