It's a fucking livestock disease, which spreads very easily, and will devastate the industry, and may actually kill people.
Do you actually... Not know about the outbreak of this shit in the 90s, in Europe and the UK..? Really??
This is NOT Covid. It isn't something they just... "Made up" (or at least, not recently)...
There's a fucking massive outbreak in Bali, so until we know more, umm, yes..?
You can't possibly be so black and white as to suggest this is anything like Covid or Monkeypox, if that's your implication.
Come on. Things are not that simple, my dude...
Edit: I actually possibly underemphasised this. If this shit gets out, in Australia, they will slaughter potentially millions of animals, infected or not, for no reason.
That is, obviously, in and of itself, completely immoral (I would actually go with pretty evil), but it will also lead to chronic meat shortages, even beyond Australia's borders, potentially for years...
The (flow on) consequences of that...? Are enormous...
This ain't lockdowns, mate. I cannot possibly overstate that YES, I DO (temporarily) SUPPORT BANNING FLIGHTS TO AND FROM THERE, for good reason. Because we know how this spreads, how easily, and what the consequences will be.
This has happened before, and it probably will again. Australia is an island country. Tourism and "waaacism"/"discwimation" be damned. This is far more fucking important. There is no reason to let this shit in, if it can possibly be avoided...
Foot and mouth is hugely transmissible, the last outbreak in the UK saw the slaughter of thousands of head of cattle as well as a transport ban on all livestock. He'll you couldn't even rotate the pasture they were in. Given Australia's unique take on protecting biodiversity I'm surprised they haven't grounded flights yet, and that's before you take into account it IS zoonotic despite the difficulty it has crossing the species barrier
Your unhinged rant full of bold, italic has convinced me that we must implement crazy measures upon the population without yet having any details at all.
You're right, let's lockdown everything, close shops, implement vaccine passports. Won't someone think of the poor livestock!
But serious question, what does banning flights from Bali help with a Livestock disease ? Do cows travel on these flights ? My noggin' is joggin', I don't quite get what you're being unhinged about.
Dude, first, hypocrite. Second, calling you "unhinged" when you're saying "PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE! BAN FLIGHTS! LOCKDOWNS!" is not an insult, it's a statement of fact.
I've already explained it to you adequately.
But you've explained nothing.
What does banning flights do ?
Source: I'm literally a fucking biologist.
But you didn't explain how banning HUMAN flights prevents this LIVESTOCK disease.
Even the USDA is like "Nah brah, no need to panic or ban flights, since humans aren't carriers".
2 completely different viruses of which humans aren't carriers of the livestock version. A full ban of flights helps nothing. OP being a "Biologist" just means he sucks at his job (not that biology as a field involves viruses. OP probably tests waste water at a filtration plant).
wait, are you pro banning flights to Bali over a stupid disease ?
Temporarily, uhh, yes?
It's a fucking livestock disease, which spreads very easily, and will devastate the industry, and may actually kill people.
Do you actually... Not know about the outbreak of this shit in the 90s, in Europe and the UK..? Really??
This is NOT Covid. It isn't something they just... "Made up" (or at least, not recently)...
There's a fucking massive outbreak in Bali, so until we know more, umm, yes..?
You can't possibly be so black and white as to suggest this is anything like Covid or Monkeypox, if that's your implication.
Come on. Things are not that simple, my dude...
Edit: I actually possibly underemphasised this. If this shit gets out, in Australia, they will slaughter potentially millions of animals, infected or not, for no reason.
That is, obviously, in and of itself, completely immoral (I would actually go with pretty evil), but it will also lead to chronic meat shortages, even beyond Australia's borders, potentially for years...
The (flow on) consequences of that...? Are enormous...
This ain't lockdowns, mate. I cannot possibly overstate that YES, I DO (temporarily) SUPPORT BANNING FLIGHTS TO AND FROM THERE, for good reason. Because we know how this spreads, how easily, and what the consequences will be.
This has happened before, and it probably will again. Australia is an island country. Tourism and "waaacism"/"discwimation" be damned. This is far more fucking important. There is no reason to let this shit in, if it can possibly be avoided...
they WANT an outbreak. they WANT to destroy the food supply.
Ok, since you're not OP and not that unhinged, can you explain how banning HUMAN flights prevents a LIVESTOCK epidemic ?
i would assume it could live the 6 or so hours on someone's clothes needed to get into australia
Foot and mouth is hugely transmissible, the last outbreak in the UK saw the slaughter of thousands of head of cattle as well as a transport ban on all livestock. He'll you couldn't even rotate the pasture they were in. Given Australia's unique take on protecting biodiversity I'm surprised they haven't grounded flights yet, and that's before you take into account it IS zoonotic despite the difficulty it has crossing the species barrier
Your unhinged rant full of bold, italic has convinced me that we must implement crazy measures upon the population without yet having any details at all.
You're right, let's lockdown everything, close shops, implement vaccine passports. Won't someone think of the poor livestock!
But serious question, what does banning flights from Bali help with a Livestock disease ? Do cows travel on these flights ? My noggin' is joggin', I don't quite get what you're being unhinged about.
I don't answer to insults.
You're naïve/ignorant about this.
Find out for yourself.
I've already explained it to you adequately.
Maybe without the insults, I could tell you more, but nah, you can look this up yourself, at this point, frankly.
It's really not fucking hard to find this stuff out.
Source: I'm literally a fucking biologist. But I knew about this even from when I was a kid.
Dude, first, hypocrite. Second, calling you "unhinged" when you're saying "PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE! BAN FLIGHTS! LOCKDOWNS!" is not an insult, it's a statement of fact.
But you've explained nothing.
What does banning flights do ?
But you didn't explain how banning HUMAN flights prevents this LIVESTOCK disease.
Even the USDA is like "Nah brah, no need to panic or ban flights, since humans aren't carriers".
For anyone wanting actual information : https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/animalhealth/animal-disease-information/fmd/index
This is different than the human disease, hand-foot-mouth disease : https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hand-foot-and-mouth-disease/symptoms-causes/syc-20353035
2 completely different viruses of which humans aren't carriers of the livestock version. A full ban of flights helps nothing. OP being a "Biologist" just means he sucks at his job (not that biology as a field involves viruses. OP probably tests waste water at a filtration plant).