Lotta 'but the Moors!' types too. When the Moors weren't black, they were a mix of Arabs and Berbers (indigenous northwest Africans) who moved to Spain - ie. they may have been deeply tanned, but not black, and would resemble Middle Easterners more than any sub-Saharan black people. Those peoples still have a very low opinion of actual black Africans today, just ask the ones they're selling as slaves in Libya.
And even at their darkest Berbers (specifically Tuaregs, the Berber sub-ethnicity that lives furthest to the south in the Sahara) still look likethis IRL. The ones who lived closer to the Mediterranean coast and thus would have been the most likely to migrate to Spain with the Muslim conquerors look more like this. (She can probably thank the Vandals, a tribe of Germanic barbarians who moved to North Africa & built a kingdom there during the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, for her fair hair)
The Moors are rapists and invaders whom were systematically dismantled piece by piece. If you ever want to weed out the last reminants of people who would dismantle your country, the Inquisition is a good handbook to follow.
I've always been partial to theoriginalMoors myself, the people of Septimius Severus and Saint Augustine and Caecilius of Altava. It's really too bad the Arab Muslims invaded their lands, drove them to extinction and appropriated their name.
And they were regularly mistaken for gorillas by North Africans. I’m not joking, the first North African explorers that saw gorilla just assumed they were hairy black people. Then they killed and skinned them to show of how weird they looked back home.
white, Arab(tan), and black skinned moors were developed over time, is just another piece of evidence that blacks were in fact in Europe and not some rarity.
Kinda funny how it really depends on how the history is taught and by whom it’s taught. Almost like they can erase certain aspects of history to the point where people think seeing black people in a film or series set in medieval times is impossible.
Someone call Ja Rule to help make sense of all this.
These people are so lost in their own made up delusional reality. This is the same rationale that led to black Hebrew Israelites, “black” jesus, and “black” Egyptians.
Lotta 'but the Moors!' types too. When the Moors weren't black, they were a mix of Arabs and Berbers (indigenous northwest Africans) who moved to Spain - ie. they may have been deeply tanned, but not black, and would resemble Middle Easterners more than any sub-Saharan black people. Those peoples still have a very low opinion of actual black Africans today, just ask the ones they're selling as slaves in Libya.
And even at their darkest Berbers (specifically Tuaregs, the Berber sub-ethnicity that lives furthest to the south in the Sahara) still look like this IRL. The ones who lived closer to the Mediterranean coast and thus would have been the most likely to migrate to Spain with the Muslim conquerors look more like this. (She can probably thank the Vandals, a tribe of Germanic barbarians who moved to North Africa & built a kingdom there during the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, for her fair hair)
The Moors are rapists and invaders whom were systematically dismantled piece by piece. If you ever want to weed out the last reminants of people who would dismantle your country, the Inquisition is a good handbook to follow.
I've always been partial to the original Moors myself, the people of Septimius Severus and Saint Augustine and Caecilius of Altava. It's really too bad the Arab Muslims invaded their lands, drove them to extinction and appropriated their name.
There are some black tribals in Libya, at least today.
They got indigenous blacks in southern Egypt too.
And they were regularly mistaken for gorillas by North Africans. I’m not joking, the first North African explorers that saw gorilla just assumed they were hairy black people. Then they killed and skinned them to show of how weird they looked back home.
Neither Libya nor Egypt are parts of Europe, so they can hardly count for these Redditors' arguments.
Incidentally, during the Middle Ages the blacks in what's now southern Egypt & Sudan were Christian opponents of the Muslim Arabs, and eventually destroyed by them (and the Muslim Ottoman Turks). They certainly wouldn't have helped the latter invade other Christian kingdoms, such as Visigothic Spain or the (much closer) Byzantine Empire.
Even in the times of the Roman Empire, lighter-skinned North Africans considered themselves distinct from and looked down upon darker-skinned sub-Saharan Africans, of whom a few (so few that even many Romans-from-Africa were surprised by their existence) served in the legions. Like the Emperor Septimius Severus, an African Roman (of mixed Punic, ie. Phoenician/Lebanese + Berber, and Italic heritage hailing from modern western Libya) who saw an 'Ethiopian' (actually black) legionary and was shocked & appalled by the sight, thinking his presence to be a bad omen.
Excuse me but I think I know what a Moor looks like having watched the Kevin Costner Robin Hood movie and Men in Tights agrees.
These people are so lost in their own made up delusional reality. This is the same rationale that led to black Hebrew Israelites, “black” jesus, and “black” Egyptians.
a few good comments in there