I actually agree with the comment. Saying things like 'Innovation', 'Accomplishment' and 'Kindness' isn't defining masculinity at all.
In fact, trying to give any kind of traits to "Masculinity" is in fact just Gender theory and ideology. Masculinity and being a man isn't just having a bunch of labels you live up to or adhere to.
You're a man because you have a Penis.
This fucking site has been infested by a bunch of MGTOW of late, and they keep pushing this dumb Gender Ideology the same as SJW and Trans activists do. It's becoming pretty sad at this point.
Infested? You either believe in men going their own way, or you don't. Nobody in the movement cares if you don't. Like all men you can do what you want.
And I'm not even MGTOW but I know enough to know that those ideologies are not the same. I'd guess MGTOW are more likely to agree with YOU. They are MORE like feminists, in believing that you should not have to conform to traditional gender roles.
You either believe in men going their own way, or you don't. Nobody in the movement cares if you don't. Like all men you can do what you want.
Then you get people like Imp and his "fans" here, who seem to actively recruit and try to make others miserable as they are, by making vast sweeping statements like "Yes, all women", which is quite hypocritical when their complaint is that Feminists say "Yes, all men".
I'd guess MGTOW are more likely to agree with YOU.
Agree with me ? Lol.
They are MORE like feminists
Exactly, a bunch of loons screaming "hypocrisy!" while acting the same way.
in believing that you should not have to conform to traditional gender roles.
You got it reversed. MGTOW believe, like Feminists, that Gender roles need to be adhered to. Unless you're talking about TERFs. But that's not what the modern Intersectional feminist is.
you get people like Imp and his "fans" here, who seem to actively recruit and try to make others miserable as they are, by making vast sweeping statements like "Yes, all women"
And you go around saying "Yes all incels" in other comments, making assumptions about strangers on the internet because they fit into a box of stereotypical behaviors you think they exhibit. You're just as bad as him. It's all confirmation bias and logical chains with no support.
MGTOW believe, like Feminists, that Gender roles need to be adhered to. Unless you're talking about TERFs.
I'm talking about the 2nd wave, "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" / "women can do everything men can do" type feminists. What gender roles do you imagine MGTOW follows? Of those I observed, they have a wide spectrum of opinion - since it's not an ideological movement - but most appear to have typical liberal or classical liberal beliefs. TheImpossible1 doesn't represent MGTOW.
You seem to have a lot of preconceived notions about things and make judgements based on educated guesses or your personal experience that doesn't necessarily match wider reality.
And you go around screaming "Yes all incels" in other comments
Nope, not all Incels, just the ones brigadding this place.
I'm talking about the 2nd wave, "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" / "women can do everything men can do" type feminists. What gender roles do you imagine MGTOW follows?
The ones that are stereotypically male. "Oh no, this boy plays with dolls, he's a feminist!". Have you read an Imp post lately ?
You seem to have a lot of preconceived notions
Blame your buddy Imp and his crew for spreading their dogma. I only call it like I read it.
That's not what the comment says, it just says that the 3 traits listed are not "Masculinity". They aren't. And you can't specifically define them either, which is why most new age post-modernists can't answer the question "What is a woman".
What is a woman ? A adult human female. That includes that chick that drives Nascar, does her own oil changes and wears jeans and a wife beater. Because there's no single definition of "Feminity" outside of pure biology. Changing oil on a massive V8 engine isn't "Masculine". Feeding an infant isn't "Feminine". Same goes for more metaphysical things like "Innovation", "Kindness" and "Accomplishments". They aren't inherently feminine or masculine.
Thinking you can assign traits to "Masculinity" is very MGTOW. It's basically exactly the same position as the intersectional, post modernist, feminists hold. Horse shoe theory and all.
I actually agree with the comment. Saying things like 'Innovation', 'Accomplishment' and 'Kindness' isn't defining masculinity at all.
In fact, trying to give any kind of traits to "Masculinity" is in fact just Gender theory and ideology. Masculinity and being a man isn't just having a bunch of labels you live up to or adhere to.
You're a man because you have a Penis.
This fucking site has been infested by a bunch of MGTOW of late, and they keep pushing this dumb Gender Ideology the same as SJW and Trans activists do. It's becoming pretty sad at this point.
Infested? You either believe in men going their own way, or you don't. Nobody in the movement cares if you don't. Like all men you can do what you want.
And I'm not even MGTOW but I know enough to know that those ideologies are not the same. I'd guess MGTOW are more likely to agree with YOU. They are MORE like feminists, in believing that you should not have to conform to traditional gender roles.
Then you get people like Imp and his "fans" here, who seem to actively recruit and try to make others miserable as they are, by making vast sweeping statements like "Yes, all women", which is quite hypocritical when their complaint is that Feminists say "Yes, all men".
Agree with me ? Lol.
Exactly, a bunch of loons screaming "hypocrisy!" while acting the same way.
You got it reversed. MGTOW believe, like Feminists, that Gender roles need to be adhered to. Unless you're talking about TERFs. But that's not what the modern Intersectional feminist is.
And you go around saying "Yes all incels" in other comments, making assumptions about strangers on the internet because they fit into a box of stereotypical behaviors you think they exhibit. You're just as bad as him. It's all confirmation bias and logical chains with no support.
I'm talking about the 2nd wave, "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" / "women can do everything men can do" type feminists. What gender roles do you imagine MGTOW follows? Of those I observed, they have a wide spectrum of opinion - since it's not an ideological movement - but most appear to have typical liberal or classical liberal beliefs. TheImpossible1 doesn't represent MGTOW.
You seem to have a lot of preconceived notions about things and make judgements based on educated guesses or your personal experience that doesn't necessarily match wider reality.
Nope, not all Incels, just the ones brigadding this place.
The ones that are stereotypically male. "Oh no, this boy plays with dolls, he's a feminist!". Have you read an Imp post lately ?
Blame your buddy Imp and his crew for spreading their dogma. I only call it like I read it.
That's not what the comment says, it just says that the 3 traits listed are not "Masculinity". They aren't. And you can't specifically define them either, which is why most new age post-modernists can't answer the question "What is a woman".
What is a woman ? A adult human female. That includes that chick that drives Nascar, does her own oil changes and wears jeans and a wife beater. Because there's no single definition of "Feminity" outside of pure biology. Changing oil on a massive V8 engine isn't "Masculine". Feeding an infant isn't "Feminine". Same goes for more metaphysical things like "Innovation", "Kindness" and "Accomplishments". They aren't inherently feminine or masculine.
Thinking you can assign traits to "Masculinity" is very MGTOW. It's basically exactly the same position as the intersectional, post modernist, feminists hold. Horse shoe theory and all.
STFU retard. Masculine is a word and it has a meaning.
Yeah, it's used in grammar to define whether a word is masculine or feminine.
Stop being a Troon lover and supporting John Money's rethoric.