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Societal decline (media.scored.co)
posted 4 years ago by user20461 4 years ago by user20461 +44 / -0
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– ClownTamer 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I’m a firm supporter of shame. I can’t think of many things we shamed people for that weren’t productive. Bullying is another thing, but shame seems mostly just great.

Too fat? Shame. Then you feel bad and you lose weight.

Too dumb? Shame. Then you try harder and build yourself up.

A slut? Shame. Then you dress better and find a better guy and make babies you raise to not be sluts.

The main benefit of shame would seem to be for the people not doing the thing. Who would even try to pull the trans card if they knew they’d be shamed if they did? Not that anyone thought they’d have to shame something retarded like that.

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– WeedleTLiar 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

I think the push against shame was largely supported by the idea that people were being shamed for things they couldn't change (like genetically low IQ) but came to encompass shame for things people could and should change (like being lazy).

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– Indipendepede 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

You've literally described the body positivity movement; a social effort to remove the stigmatisation or normalise people with deformities/abnormalities like missing limbs, scarring etc, turned into ACCEPT THE CORPULENT LARD GOLEM AS BEAUTIFUL AND HEALTHY.

The 2nd argument they used was "fat shaming makes me depressed so I eat more and get worse", but to that I say it stops more thin people from wanting to become like you. Nobody was signing up to Onlyfans to sell pictures of their butthole to internet simps when they risked being a social pariah if anyone found out. Some did, but shame kept the vast majority from even considering it as an option. Now girls need to find reasons not to sell themselves since they grow up thinking it's acceptable.

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– ClownTamer 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I can see that. I’d never shame someone for being short, or missing a limb, or something. It’s not like they can grow taller. Seems appropriate to shame for things under their control though.

Asian culture probably takes it too far but they see the value of shame and wield it well.

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