Waco is a bit better imo. At least for Ruby, dudes got some compensation (so theoretically you'd think govt would cut that shit out). Doesnt make up for the dead kid tho so both are good points.
Secession absolutely will work. The point isn't to actually get them to leave us alone, we all know that they won't ever stop until we stack up a mountain of their corpses.
The point is to get consolidate our own territory, and to force the left into a fight. What the left wants more than anything right now is to keep playing their crooked game. Secession puts an immediate halt to that.
That will only work with State secession as an internal political act.
You try federal secession and you will lose.
This is because:
a) Only genuinely far right idiots want to literally abandon America to the Communists, so you will have zero right-wing or moderate support
b) The Left will be able to genuinely justify using actual hard power on real insurrectionists, and will start putting bullets in you and your friends while the rest of the political right stands there and will do nothing about it.
c) In the imaginary scenario where you aren't carted off, you will be treated like a North Korea, and be bared from all sources of trade and funding. Anyone who does trade or fund you will be arrested or shot.
Federal Secession is a great idea to give the Left a series of vital wins that will divide the entirety of the political right, and push it Left; while also ceding ground to the Left that it represents patriotism and American values.
The political right love snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, but this is probably the best example of finding a way to fail that exists.
So that whole "well I'm fine because I moved out to the country where all my neighbors drive lifted jeeps and fly Trump flags" doesn't mean a damn thing in the end.
It's not an endgame strategy, but it's hardly useless. Consider it a tactical retreat. It's better to be surrounded by like-minded individuals, who are less likely to rat you out to the authorities for some minor infraction or wrongthink opinion. It is wise to fortify yourself with those who share your values.
I agree that it's naïve to say, "I'll just move to the country and will be safe from all of this Bolshevik crap." But, it's also naïve to say, "I can just stay in this area filled with my enemies, who are becoming increasingly radicalized, because it was previously safe to do so."
All you have to do is point out Ruby Ridge.
Waco is a bit better imo. At least for Ruby, dudes got some compensation (so theoretically you'd think govt would cut that shit out). Doesnt make up for the dead kid tho so both are good points.
Parallel economies will work because the Left can't sustain itself without parasitism.
Secession doesn't because the Left will not tolerate leaving you alone.
Secession absolutely will work. The point isn't to actually get them to leave us alone, we all know that they won't ever stop until we stack up a mountain of their corpses.
The point is to get consolidate our own territory, and to force the left into a fight. What the left wants more than anything right now is to keep playing their crooked game. Secession puts an immediate halt to that.
That will only work with State secession as an internal political act.
You try federal secession and you will lose.
This is because:
a) Only genuinely far right idiots want to literally abandon America to the Communists, so you will have zero right-wing or moderate support
b) The Left will be able to genuinely justify using actual hard power on real insurrectionists, and will start putting bullets in you and your friends while the rest of the political right stands there and will do nothing about it.
c) In the imaginary scenario where you aren't carted off, you will be treated like a North Korea, and be bared from all sources of trade and funding. Anyone who does trade or fund you will be arrested or shot.
Federal Secession is a great idea to give the Left a series of vital wins that will divide the entirety of the political right, and push it Left; while also ceding ground to the Left that it represents patriotism and American values.
The political right love snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, but this is probably the best example of finding a way to fail that exists.
It's not an endgame strategy, but it's hardly useless. Consider it a tactical retreat. It's better to be surrounded by like-minded individuals, who are less likely to rat you out to the authorities for some minor infraction or wrongthink opinion. It is wise to fortify yourself with those who share your values.
I agree that it's naïve to say, "I'll just move to the country and will be safe from all of this Bolshevik crap." But, it's also naïve to say, "I can just stay in this area filled with my enemies, who are becoming increasingly radicalized, because it was previously safe to do so."