I don't like discussing race on this sub cause the mods are sensitive but I'll give it a shot, maybe they'll listen to my name...
Segregation is how we operate. We're already going toward this end but haven't realized it yet. Black movies, black businesses, black culture. black music etc... How do you think Chinese people operate when they come into a foreign city? They setup their China town, their friends kids all are friends with their friends kids, same schools, shop at same local businesses etc... Hell, even white or jewish democrats and liberals that push integration then go and move to a 96% white neighborhood. People don't truly want integration and if they do want it people should be allowed to want it at their own pace rather than have it rammed down their throats by governments.
Step 1: Repeal the Civil Rights Act.
Forced integration is a failure IMO and actually harms everyone in the process. Right now it is harming whites the most. This whole D&I crap seems to be nothing more than punishment for white people. This is how larger nations functioned for centuries. The X race would stick to their side, the Y race to their side. Everyone is happy. If the country is under attack they maybe join forces for a time etc...
If we actually stopped pushing forced integration and let different groups naturally segregate, I think everyone would be better off in the long run.
I tend to associate with anyone regardless of race and have friends of different races but I’m all for not forcing people together who don’t want to be. I tend to have traditional minded Christian like myself as my closest friends.
There definitely is a very strong anti white sentiment for sure but I wouldn’t forcefully segregate or integrate. If it makes you happier to only associate with your own race then be happy. I have some dear friends who are white and I do have some white ancestry so I have some distant cousins I’m close to as well.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts though. I can agree with you to a point but I’d never forcefully segregate or integrate. But I don’t think you were against voluntary associations
I'm not against voluntary associations just against people forcing themselves on others on the grounds of discrimination if they are not welcomed.
So for example if I say you can't shop here because you're black. That's fine. If you say I have to serve you because it's a hate crime not to serve you because you're black, that's a problem.
No disagreement from me. Yea it always annoys me when people make such demands. Like that Christian cake maker. On the flip side there was a case in Seattle or California where a gay business owner kicked out some Christians. Which is fine so long as you don’t get upset when it’s the other way.
Ok so we generally agree. I’ve had that thought before too. Let people associate with who they want.
I mean, it starts to get a little trickier in modern society. Why are my tax dollars going toward welfare for black people? I only want welfare to go toward white people... same for healthcare and everything etc... This is IMO an argument for why all government funded social programs are unjust.
I mean it’s not a ton but it’s there. Most of my closest white ancestors are due to masters having kids with their slaves. It is what it is. It doesn’t bother me. Thanks That’s what I like about this group. I understand about stats and demographics but as a Christian I try to see everyone as my brother and sister and I fail at that sometimes but I try. Like I said I know the data but I try to see the individual. I think people are more than their race. But that is just me.
I do appreciate your input. I’d rather have real honest talk than someone telling me what they want me to hear.
You're able to have the attitude you have because you benefit from being associated with those of a higher standing. It's easy to understand third worlders wanting to leech off of the first world. You're not preaching unity and love like your posts are supposed to imply. You're breaching your group (lower on the totem) intermingle with a group higher on the totem and benefit from it. It's a one sided transaction and obviously the lower half are going to approve of it because it's benefiting them.
This is why you never trust people promoting these sort of ideas. People do things that benefit them and groups they're loyal to. Telling others to open their arms to you benefits you so you're better off promoting it than pushing back against it. It's selfishness disguised as virtue.
I don't like discussing race on this sub cause the mods are sensitive but I'll give it a shot, maybe they'll listen to my name...
Segregation is how we operate. We're already going toward this end but haven't realized it yet. Black movies, black businesses, black culture. black music etc... How do you think Chinese people operate when they come into a foreign city? They setup their China town, their friends kids all are friends with their friends kids, same schools, shop at same local businesses etc... Hell, even white or jewish democrats and liberals that push integration then go and move to a 96% white neighborhood. People don't truly want integration and if they do want it people should be allowed to want it at their own pace rather than have it rammed down their throats by governments.
Step 1: Repeal the Civil Rights Act.
Forced integration is a failure IMO and actually harms everyone in the process. Right now it is harming whites the most. This whole D&I crap seems to be nothing more than punishment for white people. This is how larger nations functioned for centuries. The X race would stick to their side, the Y race to their side. Everyone is happy. If the country is under attack they maybe join forces for a time etc...
If we actually stopped pushing forced integration and let different groups naturally segregate, I think everyone would be better off in the long run.
I tend to associate with anyone regardless of race and have friends of different races but I’m all for not forcing people together who don’t want to be. I tend to have traditional minded Christian like myself as my closest friends.
There definitely is a very strong anti white sentiment for sure but I wouldn’t forcefully segregate or integrate. If it makes you happier to only associate with your own race then be happy. I have some dear friends who are white and I do have some white ancestry so I have some distant cousins I’m close to as well.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts though. I can agree with you to a point but I’d never forcefully segregate or integrate. But I don’t think you were against voluntary associations
I'm not against voluntary associations just against people forcing themselves on others on the grounds of discrimination if they are not welcomed.
So for example if I say you can't shop here because you're black. That's fine. If you say I have to serve you because it's a hate crime not to serve you because you're black, that's a problem.
No disagreement from me. Yea it always annoys me when people make such demands. Like that Christian cake maker. On the flip side there was a case in Seattle or California where a gay business owner kicked out some Christians. Which is fine so long as you don’t get upset when it’s the other way.
Ok so we generally agree. I’ve had that thought before too. Let people associate with who they want.
I mean, it starts to get a little trickier in modern society. Why are my tax dollars going toward welfare for black people? I only want welfare to go toward white people... same for healthcare and everything etc... This is IMO an argument for why all government funded social programs are unjust.
You're kinda proving the whole point in a one-off fragment of a sentence.
Cause, I'd like to introduce you to my good friend, Effect.
I mean it’s not a ton but it’s there. Most of my closest white ancestors are due to masters having kids with their slaves. It is what it is. It doesn’t bother me. Thanks That’s what I like about this group. I understand about stats and demographics but as a Christian I try to see everyone as my brother and sister and I fail at that sometimes but I try. Like I said I know the data but I try to see the individual. I think people are more than their race. But that is just me. I do appreciate your input. I’d rather have real honest talk than someone telling me what they want me to hear.
You're able to have the attitude you have because you benefit from being associated with those of a higher standing. It's easy to understand third worlders wanting to leech off of the first world. You're not preaching unity and love like your posts are supposed to imply. You're breaching your group (lower on the totem) intermingle with a group higher on the totem and benefit from it. It's a one sided transaction and obviously the lower half are going to approve of it because it's benefiting them.
This is why you never trust people promoting these sort of ideas. People do things that benefit them and groups they're loyal to. Telling others to open their arms to you benefits you so you're better off promoting it than pushing back against it. It's selfishness disguised as virtue.