Not sure if anyone has seen it or not, but on my youtube, a video popped up on my feed of people reacting to a video about the world history of slavery. The information was taken from Thomas Sowell's book Black Rednecks and White Liberals where he has a chapter that has a nice condensed overview of slavery in the world where he goes over Europeans who were enslaved, all the slavery going on with Africa and the fact they sold the slaves to the Europeans, slavery in the Middle East/Ottoman Empire, and more.
It kind of made me sad that all of the people were shocked and didn't seem to have any idea about slavery outside of the U.S., and there was one black lady in particular who (now I can't read minds but it seemed like it) seemed to be disappointed because I guess the video took away slavery from her as a unique element of victim status. I would hope something like that would open some eyes, but I'm doubtful.
As I've stated before I think slavery should be taught from a global perspective, although for young people a basic overall history of the United States would be good but I have reached a point where I think if you want to know in depth histories of different groups you can take an elective or read up on it for yourself.
It really is a shame how so many people are clueless about the history of the world and endlessly talk about America's past as if slavery/land conquest is something unique to this country. I remember during the 4th of July in 2020 Trump gave a speech at Mt. Rushmore, and CNN mentioned that it was land taken from the Sioux tribe (of course they never mentioned that when Obama spoke there) somebody mentioned in the article comments that the Sioux had conquered another tribe to gain that land. I'm not trying to justify past actions but I guess I am just tired of this narrow minded focus and some people today can't just learn history and move forward.
Sorry for the long rant.
As I mentioned before, most of my friends are on the left. It happens that I was recently discussing Egypt since 2 of them just came back from a vacation there.
They were offended that Egypt was built on the backs of black slaves - because what else are you going to worry about when you go see the remains of an ancient civilization. I had to tell them that they had slaves before going south in to Sudan and that the pyramids were not made by black slaves. I also told them that black people had slaves as well but no pyramids so you can still admire and credit the Egyptians for what they did.
What really bothered me was how focused they were on black people of Egypt and that they did not care about any other slaves except the black slaves. Simply put, non black slaves are not important.
They have been brainwashed to think like that. A lot of my cousins are on the left and they have made those points about Egypt too. I tried to debate one of them who was saying that the Egyptian rulers were black (which I thought that had been debunked) but I just gave up. They have a similar mindset as your friends.
I may be wrong so someone can contradict me if I am. What I knew was that Egyptian pharos are generically the same as current day Syrians or even some eastern Europeans. However there was a dynasty that ruled of Egypt that was black, they invaded Egypt after Egypt started falling apart, they ruled for a long time, more then a hundred years. At one point egyptians pushed the nubians out and that was it.
So there is some bases of black pharos.
That’s true. I guess I was referring to those who say it was always black.
Those things are crazy, there are some that say there were black people in Scandinavia just because at one time some Vikings reached Egypt. No proof that they brought even one slave back, not to mention not a black slave or even if those Vikings ever returned home but this does not stop them.
Or how the equivalent of brunette appears in some texts in Europe, that can mean anything from dark skinned greek or italian to simply having dark hair but for them is proof of sub-Saharan Africans.
Another was darker skinned people on some vases, this can mean anything, I paint miniatures and I have a hard time getting the correct skin color shade all the time. The vases were painted using natural pigments not professional miniature paints and somehow I'm to believe that they put in the exact shade, it never altered and light brown means African - despite not having racial traits associated with black people. More then that it was commen to paint men with a darker skin simply for working outside, I've seen a lot of paintings that did that where men have darker skin then the women.
The length they go to make even the slightest non paper white skin tone mean black people is ridiculous. And they never bring genetic proof. If black people were common in Europe then we should find skeletons, the sub-saharan African have skeletal features to help identify it and then you can run DNA tests.
It is so clear that is an attempt to attack white people out of hatred, I do not even get angry, just tiered. What really gets to me is the failure of historian to push back, they fear being called racists or not-progressives so much that they will compromise their entire profession.
Sorry for the rant.
Just going to point that there were some black people recorded in France at one point, but that was I think 1800+, and it was still so uncommon that they recorded their existence simply because they were black, wow look we have a black nun or a black man serving a knight. So I find it very hard to believe that black people were common in Europe.
Blacks in Europe.
Simultaniously 30% of the population and also so rare that they were kept in zoos as spectacles barey more than a century ago.
I remember reading an article about it and yes blacks would’ve been rare in Europe in the Middle Ages. The article said mostly they would’ve been in Southern Europe which makes sense due to proximity to Africa and I know Roman Empire extended into Africa so I could see some traveling to Europe. Also some European kingdoms has Mansa Musa on their maps. Some but not a ton like modern day period pieces would have you believe. Modern day period pieces are absurd. So yes I’m sure there were a few but not a crazy number
People underestimate how little people moved. They also never make it with sense, maybe there were black people in the Middle Ages but it was incredibly rare but modern day writers put them like it is normal and accepted to see black people in the Middle Ages. It always feels forced. People would have reacted, even now if you go in Eastern Europe as a black guy you will see people look at you funny. Not to mention everyone would assume you are foreign visiting. This in a time where black people are constantly on TV, including in Eastern Europe. So I am to assume that in a period where 99,9999% of the population never seen a black men in their lives would react normally when seeing one?
I've seen gypsies reacting on how black some black people are but white people in Middle Ages are suppose to act like it was normal.
I understand the rant. No need to apologize. That stuff makes me mad too
That is exactly what happened. Except they did see a lot of poverty so that was confusing for them.
They've learned that people can be controlled by making them feel bad for something that happened generations ago.
Same shit in Germany, 90% of history taught in school is WW2. The rest of time and space can share the remaining 10%. Doesn't stop after school either. Everything the left doesn't like is literally Hitler.
It's all about power and control.
My mom was big about reading up on things for yourself. Granted that lesson didn't sink in until I was in my early 20s but I have learned way more from picking up history books and reading them on my own than I ever did in public school
How dare you spout inconvenient facts.
Obviously, the slavers did not do so out of humanitarian motives, but because slavery was more profitable than killing your victims.
That's true, but it's important to acknowledge that if you beat an opponent's force in battle, figuring out to do with people who surrender is not an easy problem. There weren't mass prisons, and feeding people was a major problem.
Most Americans do not know American History, let alone World history
Nearly every Western country suffers from this problem. That is why people are so easily deceived.
It's like no one read the Bible or something lol
As Bernard Lewis said, the West is not unique in having slavery, it is only unique in seeing its evil and abolishing it.
Re: CNN and Mount Rushmore. I remember that CNN talked about Mount Rushmore as a 'vernerated memorial' when Bernie Sanders visited it (that is before they tried to take him out in favor of Warren), but then called it a 'monument to slaveholders' when Trump did.
Your nipples are older than your teeth. Dunno if that's interesting or not, but that's all I got.
edit: oh wait, you said "saw" not "say"
Ha!