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Salon admits there's Ukrainian Nazis "but it's a long story" (twitter.com)
posted 4 years ago by YesMovement 4 years ago by YesMovement +89 / -0
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– Erithal 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

I haven't seen this particular false dichotomy being pushed.

I've seen people who are sympathetic to Russia because they're mounting regional resistance to Western/Globalist expansion. I've seen people voice concerns that Ukraine is too corrupt to be worth the struggle bringing them into NATO would provoke. I've seen people try to smear anyone with Russian sympathies as FSB shills, or supporters of the Chechen Islamic volunteer brigade.

I think there's a lot of room for all combatants to be in the wrong here, and more than enough propaganda to deepen the moral fog when you try to judge the issue.

I know you've been wading hip-deep in flamewars on this one, so where did you see a demand for you to have that kind of black or white thinking on the subject?

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

You should see my post history, it will be easier. They tried to smear Ukraine and attempting to make me show support for russia because of Azov.

The excuses are that they represent such a large amount of Ukrainians, to many other things.

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– deleted 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0
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– Erithal 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

I'm looking through your post history.

It's not easy to see context through the flames-- how far back should I be looking? 90%+ of your last three pages or so of post history have been abbreviated replies or demands for an evidentiary standard you'd need to violate your security clearance to provide, RE: the Russian bioweapons claim.

I don't see any of your replies to demanding you support Russia because Azov battalion. I admit that your vociferous opposition to 'stormcuckery' probably provoked such rhetoric at some point. Something along the lines of challenging your moral fiber because now that there's actual neo-nazis, you support their side in the form of Azov Battalion/Ukraine?

How far back should I slog for context?

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– current_horror 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

Context on jester? Don’t bother. He’s larping as a member of mossad’s online troll division for people who are too stupid and ugly to meaningfully serve the cause.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Maybe they purposefully trained him wrong as a joke.

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

He’s larping as a member of mossad’s online troll division

Its true, I get a gold plated mercedes every time I show on Current_horror thoughts.

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

you'd need to violate your security clearance to provide

Evidence that russia is telling the truth. all the evidence they provided was nmothing.

But here are some. Just wet your whistle.

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– deleted 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0
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– Erithal 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Still a lot of flames there, but you've selected some contexts that I can parse-- so thanks. I was having no luck sorting through your history.

Evidence that russia is telling the truth. all the evidence they provided was nmothing.

You seem to be fuming about this an awful lot. Understandably, as it's the latest talking point. W/E, I guess I'll bite-- what would constitute evidence that Russia-- a country you believe (per the above links) 1) is evil and 2) often lies-- is telling the truth in the particular case of Ukrainian bio labs? What are the claims you believe Russia has made about these labs? What would you accept as evidence of Russia being truthful about these claims, given their unreliability as a source?

I ask because I get the feeling you're setting people up by asking them to produce a motherfucking unicorn, and telling them 'told you so' when they don't deliver. I don't understand your motives, let alone the point-- what are you after, exactly?

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