The Holodomor also known as the Terror-Famine or the Great Famine, was a famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians.
It's debated whether they were targetted specifically, or whether they just got the shit end of the stick in a wider famine, but I don't think the west had quite the ambition to create this just to divide and conquer.
It's the same thing everywhere, with the West backing separatists in order to weaken countries outside its orbit - as indeed Russia itself did in Ukraine and Georgia.
'Right' is not a question in international politics. Only force is. Russia's military might is greater than its economic might, so it will use the military where Washington would like Ukraine to be nominally independent and subject to its economic pressure.
Regardless, many states have had an existence before 1917. Poland, for example. Egypt goes back to ancient times. Ukraine, never. It is an invented state, which is why I will not mourn its passing (particularly since it is serving the interests of Drag Queen imperialism), though I do hope that there will not be a great deal of bloodshed.
It doesn't matter if Ukraine wasn't a state, if the people themselves found a cultural identity outside the sphere of influence of the Rus and Muscovites. The Ukranians were still not Russian before that as they were part of the Poland Lithuanian Commonwealth.
Well yeah, when Russia was flat on its back, it recognized Ukraine and the other parts of its empire that it lost. But it is not exactly a surprise that it would want to reconquer at least the strategically and historically important parts of these. Do note that there was no trouble until creeps like Guy Verhofstadt went to Ukraine and mounted a coup against the somewhat pro-Russian thug president Yanukovich.
The point about Egypt and Poland is that they have a historical existence. They were not invented yesterday. That means that they have more legitimacy.
He's right tho. There was no Ukrainian state before 1917.
And the West loves breaking up strong states so it can play smaller countries off against each other.
I know someone from western ukraine.
It's debated whether they were targetted specifically, or whether they just got the shit end of the stick in a wider famine, but I don't think the west had quite the ambition to create this just to divide and conquer.
It's the same thing everywhere, with the West backing separatists in order to weaken countries outside its orbit - as indeed Russia itself did in Ukraine and Georgia.
'Right' is not a question in international politics. Only force is. Russia's military might is greater than its economic might, so it will use the military where Washington would like Ukraine to be nominally independent and subject to its economic pressure.
Regardless, many states have had an existence before 1917. Poland, for example. Egypt goes back to ancient times. Ukraine, never. It is an invented state, which is why I will not mourn its passing (particularly since it is serving the interests of Drag Queen imperialism), though I do hope that there will not be a great deal of bloodshed.
It doesn't matter if Ukraine wasn't a state, if the people themselves found a cultural identity outside the sphere of influence of the Rus and Muscovites. The Ukranians were still not Russian before that as they were part of the Poland Lithuanian Commonwealth.
for those not vested in euro politics, please explain??
The US is the Drag Queen Empire, I believe that's a term coined by the great Darren Beattie.
Well yeah, when Russia was flat on its back, it recognized Ukraine and the other parts of its empire that it lost. But it is not exactly a surprise that it would want to reconquer at least the strategically and historically important parts of these. Do note that there was no trouble until creeps like Guy Verhofstadt went to Ukraine and mounted a coup against the somewhat pro-Russian thug president Yanukovich.
The point about Egypt and Poland is that they have a historical existence. They were not invented yesterday. That means that they have more legitimacy.
Poland as a distinct country with its own people and language has been around for almost a thousand years, regardless of territorial changes.