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London's mayor plans to charge those who have "all but the cleanest vehicles" a "small fee - probably about the same as a bus fare - to drive anywhere in London", possibly charge vehicles for "entering the capital" (archive.md)
posted 4 years ago by altmehere 4 years ago by altmehere +35 / -0
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– ah_hell 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Your communism is showing again.

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– Piroko 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

You ever been to London?

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– dagthegnome 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

You ever been out of it?

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– Piroko 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

I'm from Iowa.

I'm gonna describe for you the London Inner Ring.

The inner ring encloses an area stretching from Westminster to Barbican, Marylebone to Southwark. It's roughly 2 miles in diameter, and maybe 3 square miles in area.

Most of those streets were set down and plotted out before America existed. It has been congested with so much traffic, for so long, that they've been digging under it for a hundred and fifty years. There are over thirty subway stations inside the inner ring. At any point inside there, you are never more than about 900 feet (3 football fields) walking distance to a subway.

Most of the streets are narrow enough that you can EITHER have two lanes OR one lane and parking. Short of burning the whole area down and condemning the land it cannot be fixed.

The only solution is to say "no fucking cars, period", which is what they'll eventually have to do.

Saying "no fucking GAS cars" is just staving off the inevitable for another couple years.

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– Assassin47 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Saying "no fucking GAS cars" is just staving off the inevitable for another couple years.

It's virtue signaling. Notice that this is what politicians always do. They either do nothing to solve a problem, making meaningless statements and gestures, or they take some extreme or off-base action that pleases one part of the electorate but completely misses the mark or is a temporary fix at best.

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– dagthegnome 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The solution you're proposing would just take all of the congestion in inner London and move it, spreading it around an area with a much larger population. Banning things doesn't solve problems: it just makes those things into someone else's problem.

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– ah_hell 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

So you are from Iowa yet you are the "leading expert" in all things London? Right.

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