Should Americans not study European history and claim it as part of their cultural tradition because they had a revolution and created their own new form of government?
From a religious standpoint, Christians moved beyond the Jew and invited Jews to adopt the new law. Therefore Christianity is a superset of the old law, and saying "Judeo" is meaningless. And in a sense the Jews here are right: if they refuse to accept Christ, they aren't "Judeo-Christian". Why use the term at all?
From a historical/cultural standpoint, it's kind of subjective. Judeo-Christian is fine with me but I understand why others disagree, and again saying "Christian" already implies Jewish contributions to the empire. Greco-Roman (itself redundant) and Anglo are also accurate descriptors that you can combine with Christianity to describe pre-American culture. Even those leave out the pagan traditions that Christians coopted. It's still argued today how much Europe was shaped by Christian leaders vs. pagan traditions.
I for one absolutely recognize the Jewish contributions to Christianity. After all, if the Jews hadn't been so hellbent on persecuting and denying the Messiah and spitting in the face of the God they claim to worship, we wouldn't have Christianity to begin with.
So thank you, heretic, for your contributions to the true religion.
Paul's views on the Jews are complex, but he is generally regarded as the first person to make the claim that by not accepting claims of Jesus' divinity, Jews disqualified themselves from salvation. Christians quickly adopted Paul's views.
For most of Christian history, supersessionism has been the mainstream interpretation of the New Testament of all three major historical traditions within Christianity – Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Protestant. The text most often evident in favor of the supersessionist view is Hebrews 8:13: "In speaking of 'a new covenant' [Jer. 31.31-32] he has made the first one obsolete."
Jewish rabbis claim that Christians must follow the law of Moses, the Christian apostles tell them to fuck off and that Christians are not required to follow the old laws:
Christianity is literally named after the most important figure in its history, while Judaism rejects that same figure. There couldn’t be a more obvious and powerful divergence. It is very in-character for you to completely gloss over this, btw.
The Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.”
The apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter.
"We believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.”
"Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood."
Those are the only rules that Christians must follow, Christians are not required to follow any of the Old Testament.
In fact, Christians are explicitly forbidden from circumcising, which is mandatory in Judaism:
Christian beliefs share literally nothing with Judaism. Christianity has 4 rules:
No eating of meat which was offered to idols.
No sexual immorality.
No eating strangled meat.
No eating blood.
That's it. The Old Testament doesn't apply, the Torah doesn't apply. Christians are also forbidden from circumcising, even though it is required by Judaism.
Christianity is entirely 100% about the saving grace of Jesus, and yet Jews completely 100% reject Jesus, they believe Jesus is a false prophet who is rotting in hell:
Right... let us remember God, blood pudding, candles, temples, churches, the old testament, those little hats priests use, their clothing, holidays, oh my... so much more!
You are just butthurt that without Judaism Christianity would never be a thing.
You are right, I am very thankful for the Jewish rabbis who brutally and viciously murdered Jesus. And the Jews also brutally tortured numerous Christians after Jesus's death. Without them, Christianity would not exist.
The false marriage of Judaism and Christianity is not a Christian invention, and it certainly does not help Christians.
And yet... your belief shares a lot with Judaism. But if you want to deny it, begin to take out the old testament of your bible.
Should Americans not study European history and claim it as part of their cultural tradition because they had a revolution and created their own new form of government?
From a religious standpoint, Christians moved beyond the Jew and invited Jews to adopt the new law. Therefore Christianity is a superset of the old law, and saying "Judeo" is meaningless. And in a sense the Jews here are right: if they refuse to accept Christ, they aren't "Judeo-Christian". Why use the term at all?
From a historical/cultural standpoint, it's kind of subjective. Judeo-Christian is fine with me but I understand why others disagree, and again saying "Christian" already implies Jewish contributions to the empire. Greco-Roman (itself redundant) and Anglo are also accurate descriptors that you can combine with Christianity to describe pre-American culture. Even those leave out the pagan traditions that Christians coopted. It's still argued today how much Europe was shaped by Christian leaders vs. pagan traditions.
That's a gross misunderstanding of Christian doctrine
Say that to those idiots wanting to deny the Jewish contributions to Christianity.
I for one absolutely recognize the Jewish contributions to Christianity. After all, if the Jews hadn't been so hellbent on persecuting and denying the Messiah and spitting in the face of the God they claim to worship, we wouldn't have Christianity to begin with.
So thank you, heretic, for your contributions to the true religion.
Like killing Jesus?
Already done, kind of. New Testament pretty much overrules the old due to the crucifixion and grace the heebs rejected.
Alright, which version of the bible is this going to be called?
"Stormcuckery Version" ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersessionism
Jewish rabbis claim that Christians must follow the law of Moses, the Christian apostles tell them to fuck off and that Christians are not required to follow the old laws:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15&version=ESV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Thessalonians+2%3A14-16&version=ESV
This is all right there in the Bible. This has been the beliefs of Christians for over 2,000 years.
I’m not Christian. It’s not my Bible.
Christianity is literally named after the most important figure in its history, while Judaism rejects that same figure. There couldn’t be a more obvious and powerful divergence. It is very in-character for you to completely gloss over this, btw.
Then explain why Christianity would not exist without Judaism, including the Torah imbedded in the bible.
Christians are not obligated to follow the Torah, or the Old Testament. It is useful as a historical reference, but it's not morally binding:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15&version=ESV
Those are the only rules that Christians must follow, Christians are not required to follow any of the Old Testament.
In fact, Christians are explicitly forbidden from circumcising, which is mandatory in Judaism:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galations+5%3A1-4&version=ESV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+7%3A18&version=ESV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galations+6%3A12-15&version=ESV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15%3A24&version=KJV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus+1%3A10-16&version=ESV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+3%3A2-3&version=ESV
Christian beliefs share literally nothing with Judaism. Christianity has 4 rules:
That's it. The Old Testament doesn't apply, the Torah doesn't apply. Christians are also forbidden from circumcising, even though it is required by Judaism.
Christianity is entirely 100% about the saving grace of Jesus, and yet Jews completely 100% reject Jesus, they believe Jesus is a false prophet who is rotting in hell:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism's_view_of_Jesus
The term "Judeo-Christianity" was invented in the 1930s, it is completely fake.
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Right... let us remember God, blood pudding, candles, temples, churches, the old testament, those little hats priests use, their clothing, holidays, oh my... so much more!
You are just butthurt that without Judaism Christianity would never be a thing.
You are right, I am very thankful for the Jewish rabbis who brutally and viciously murdered Jesus. And the Jews also brutally tortured numerous Christians after Jesus's death. Without them, Christianity would not exist.