So my neighbor finally binge watched Game of Thrones (I used to tell him to watch it back when the show was good but he had kids and work, but now that he works from home and his kids are a little older he has more time). As expected he thought the ending was horrible and what really annoyed him was how the whole white walker thing ended.
He said he felt that it made no sense for Jon Snow to not have a confrontation and fight the night king and that Arya killing him was purely for girl power points. Also said that the White Walker storyline could have been a season with good writing or at the very least 3 episodes. He then asked if he could borrow the books from me to get the bad taste out of his mouth. I let him borrow them but warned him that there are still two more books to be written and this is a series that is looking less and less likely to be finished.
Do you think that GOT suffered due to the whole "strong women" pandering? I actually like Arya's character and I enjoyed most of her chapters in the books. I know D&D said that she was supposed to kill the Night King all along, and that having Jon kill him would be what everyone was expecting (because they had set it up that way). I really wish after the online outrage over the Sansa rape that they would've said, this show takes place in a very brutal world and there have been plenty of men killed and tortured as well.
The Sansa rape was endured by a different character in the books, Jeyne Poole iirc. D&D didn't care about the story at all past book 3 (season 4). GRRM is a liberal so there may still yet be a feminist ending to the book series. The night king doesn't even exist in the books, and the books are definitely hinting that the "others" must have some final confrontation with Jon Snow. GRRM wouldn't have Arya take on the Others because it just wouldn't make any sense and he seems to at least care about story arcs making sense. I got into the show when season 2 was on and read all 5 books before season 3 aired. I used to be a sweet summer child believing GRRM would finish the series but now I really doubt it.
Yea I’m surprised they didn’t follow the Jeyne Poole plot. I know the Night King isn’t in the book but for show purposes they could’ve done a better job with that plot. I agree with you about the books leading to a confrontation. I used to think the 6th book would be announced any day…
It absolutely did, they fucked over all of the male characters to make the women look better, and I think the next book (if it even comes out) will do the same thing. In the last couple seasons every male character was somehow subservient to a woman; Jon and Tyrion to Denarys/Sansa, Jaime to Brienne and Cersi, Theon to his butterface sister, the entire finale season was built around these unearned girl power moments, hell just look at that scene where a zombie giant gets killed by an 8 year old girl.
And the funny thing is it didn’t work, shitty feminist bloggers still complained that women got the short end of the stick after the finale. Even though Sansa, Arya, Brienne, and Yara got exactly what they wanted.
Remember the meltdowns about Dany going mad? I know Nerdrotic thinks that GRRM is taking his time because he is afraid of upsetting the woke mafia
I think Gary is wrong here. I don't think GRRM can finish because he's got a monster case of writer's block. The story hasn't in actuality moved forward since 2005, and he's filled his schedule with a million distractions (including the tv series). He probably tested a "just get it over with" ending with the show and it went over like a lead duck, so he's back to square one. If he really didn't care anymore he would stop talking about it.
I wish he would hire someone to finish or just tell us the book ending
It's all garbage, the show, the books, all of it. GRR Martin is a faggy hippie who couldn't get laid and wrote mean-spirited books shitting all over bravery, courage, and virtue because he was friend zoned.
GoT is cultural poison and no one should consoom it.
What is the story with the friend zone?
Was that what inspired Dying of the Light? In that book the main character receives this call from a lost love that ends up just friend zoning him in the end. Good book, I liked the setting.
Most people will say yes but I say kinda. It went to shit because the directors got a Disney Star Wars deal and wanted to finish ASAP but joke was on them because SW died and they walked away from that deal for some Confederate Netflix show that died before it was even in post, mostly because it was leftist bullshit about whites being horrible and because D&D fucked up GOT so badly in the last 2.5 seasons that it hurt their reputation and people are no longer interested in them.
I give GRRM some blame for not finishing as well
Want for the books all but dried up after the show ended.
I loved that show early on, but I feel like when they
killedJon Snow the first time is when it started downhill fast. Everything just got too mixed up after that and the pacing was screwed up, etc. I've read the first book ages ago but I didn't really get into the books so that's the extent of my experience there.I don't necessarily mind Arya's character despite some of the plot holes later that I put more on the story and not the character. Despite being a typical "strong woman" character I didn't necessarily come away with a forced political narrative from her. I'd apply the same to Brienne of Tarth a bit too. Both actually had some character.
I actually see the feminism in Daenerys and later on Sansa. It feels forced with them. Women that will rule the world on one hand and be a whiny bitch on the other. Maybe that's just because that's also the traits I see in most of the feminists pushed on us in the real world.
Yea I enjoyed Ayra. I thought it was dumb to have her kill the night king. Or have her and Jon work together since they are close. Brienne was a good character. The show was rushed at the end but I blame GRRM for not finishing the series.
And I remember guys getting called sexist for questioning the logic. Or even asking why Jon didn’t at least fight the Night King
Oh yea. I heard about that