I know communists don't care about this kind of thing but something I wish normal people who may be susceptible to the whole "he ownt slaves reee" and "bad man caused war is bad 😡" rhetoric would realize is that you don't have to morally agree with all of a historic figures actions. It's ok to honor someone for reasons outside of morality.
People like Alexander, Genghis Khan, Washington and Napoleon carried out world-defining actions. And then there's more minor figures like Stonewall Jackson and Raphael Semmes who are honored simply for being bamfs.
And there's also this idea that being anti-racist or whatever other "virtue" these fucktards uphold automatically makes them a "better" person than someone like Stonewall Jackson. They seriously think that automatically makes them a better person just because Stonewall Jackson and others like him probably didn't think highly of blacks. They're that fucking stupid and simplistic in their thinking.
This is why, especially in America people should learn world history as well. For some reason so many young people seem to think slavery and land conquest is something unique to the US or the western world. I always get surprised looks when I tell people that there are parts of the world where slavery thrives
Yeah, Mauritania (in Northwest Africa) only outlawed slavery in 1970-odd, and the Saudis (ofc) only outlawed it a little while prior…
Of course, slavery in other forms, as you say, arguably still thrives…
In fact, there’s a restaurant in the nearest city to where I lived where the Indian owners kept an arguable (Indian) slave, locked up downstairs, for years…
It still exists, almost a decade later. The “left” here never protested it.
Also, (some) embassies in our capital, over here, pretty much keep slaves, but apparently “diplomatic immunity” means the government here won’t touch them…
It's about destroying the foundations society was built on so they can replace it with a dystopian hell scape. I'm most familiar with the efforts to erase the Founding Fathers of the US, so I'll use them as an example. If they successfully demonize people like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson under some pretext (slavery in this case but they would find something else if they couldn't use that), they can discredit the things that we actually honor them for, like free speech/religion, gun rights, various fair trial rights, etc. The end game is a genocidal communist state where the progressive stack determines who ends up in the death camps, and the Founding Fathers' ideas are considered "counterrevolutionary", earning anyone who supports them a one way ticket to the gulag.
“Handmaid’s Tale but woke” is a weird, scary vision of the future I fear you guys may be headed for…
Though I’m sure Atwood will probably approve, in the unlikely event she is still alive by them, lol…
Don’t worry, though, in many ways Aus is waaay ahead of you, so I won’t be able to make these comparisons when I’ve been readily carted off to the desert gulag, come like, early next year, lol… 😑
I know communists don't care about this kind of thing but something I wish normal people who may be susceptible to the whole "he ownt slaves reee" and "bad man caused war is bad 😡" rhetoric would realize is that you don't have to morally agree with all of a historic figures actions. It's ok to honor someone for reasons outside of morality.
People like Alexander, Genghis Khan, Washington and Napoleon carried out world-defining actions. And then there's more minor figures like Stonewall Jackson and Raphael Semmes who are honored simply for being bamfs.
And there's also this idea that being anti-racist or whatever other "virtue" these fucktards uphold automatically makes them a "better" person than someone like Stonewall Jackson. They seriously think that automatically makes them a better person just because Stonewall Jackson and others like him probably didn't think highly of blacks. They're that fucking stupid and simplistic in their thinking.
This is why, especially in America people should learn world history as well. For some reason so many young people seem to think slavery and land conquest is something unique to the US or the western world. I always get surprised looks when I tell people that there are parts of the world where slavery thrives
Yeah, Mauritania (in Northwest Africa) only outlawed slavery in 1970-odd, and the Saudis (ofc) only outlawed it a little while prior…
Of course, slavery in other forms, as you say, arguably still thrives…
In fact, there’s a restaurant in the nearest city to where I lived where the Indian owners kept an arguable (Indian) slave, locked up downstairs, for years…
It still exists, almost a decade later. The “left” here never protested it.
Also, (some) embassies in our capital, over here, pretty much keep slaves, but apparently “diplomatic immunity” means the government here won’t touch them…
👌🏻 for human rights. Really honestly… 🙄
qatar, this very second, is using slave labor. the profits of which are used to fund woke faggotry abroad.
It's about destroying the foundations society was built on so they can replace it with a dystopian hell scape. I'm most familiar with the efforts to erase the Founding Fathers of the US, so I'll use them as an example. If they successfully demonize people like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson under some pretext (slavery in this case but they would find something else if they couldn't use that), they can discredit the things that we actually honor them for, like free speech/religion, gun rights, various fair trial rights, etc. The end game is a genocidal communist state where the progressive stack determines who ends up in the death camps, and the Founding Fathers' ideas are considered "counterrevolutionary", earning anyone who supports them a one way ticket to the gulag.
“Handmaid’s Tale but woke” is a weird, scary vision of the future I fear you guys may be headed for…
Though I’m sure Atwood will probably approve, in the unlikely event she is still alive by them, lol…
Don’t worry, though, in many ways Aus is waaay ahead of you, so I won’t be able to make these comparisons when I’ve been readily carted off to the desert gulag, come like, early next year, lol… 😑