This hasn't passed peer review (and even that isn't the vaunted gold standard for study credibility) so take it with a preliminary grain of salt. But it largely tracks with evidence from other studies and trends - the first couple months post-vaccination appears to increase infectivity amongst those with the jab, with the vulnerability falling off for the next few months. This is true across all the vaccines on market. You're practically creating new cases with every forced surge of boosters. I know people have been ringing the ADE alarm for a long time but the trends are starting to come into focus. Will be interesting to follow, at least.
I don't know how true any of this was, but I heard a lot of rumbling at one point that there was a ton of shit that hadn't passed peer review bc people in the related fields capable of doing it thought it would be career suicide to touch em
The study suggests that infection with COVID produces a more general resistance to COVID across variants than exposure to only the spike protein via vaccination. It does not suggest that exposure to the spike protein makes you more vulnerable than not being exposed at all.
...our analysis provides evidence for an increased risk of infection by the Beta, Gamma, or Delta variants compared to the Alpha variant after full vaccination, regardless of the vaccine used. This indicates lower vaccine effectiveness against infection with the Beta, Gamma and Delta variant compared to the Alpha variant.
The effect is most pronounced in the following 2-4 weeks after vaccination, though immunity against alpha is still mitigated (largely irrelevant since alpha is no longer dominant in the wild).
These results track with an Israeli study published in BMJ which, once again, showed an increase in infectivity post vaccination for a limited window.
Did you miss the 'compared to the Alpha variant' part?
It's saying that if you are vaccinated, the protection from infection is greater against the Alpha variant than against any of the other enumerated variants. That does not mean that vaccinated individuals are at greater risk from these variants than the unvaccinated (though the statements do not necessarily preclude that).
This hasn't passed peer review (and even that isn't the vaunted gold standard for study credibility) so take it with a preliminary grain of salt. But it largely tracks with evidence from other studies and trends - the first couple months post-vaccination appears to increase infectivity amongst those with the jab, with the vulnerability falling off for the next few months. This is true across all the vaccines on market. You're practically creating new cases with every forced surge of boosters. I know people have been ringing the ADE alarm for a long time but the trends are starting to come into focus. Will be interesting to follow, at least.
Just like the vax?
I don't know how true any of this was, but I heard a lot of rumbling at one point that there was a ton of shit that hadn't passed peer review bc people in the related fields capable of doing it thought it would be career suicide to touch em
Thank you for the clarification on what the paper is and isn't.
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The study suggests that infection with COVID produces a more general resistance to COVID across variants than exposure to only the spike protein via vaccination. It does not suggest that exposure to the spike protein makes you more vulnerable than not being exposed at all.
The effect is most pronounced in the following 2-4 weeks after vaccination, though immunity against alpha is still mitigated (largely irrelevant since alpha is no longer dominant in the wild).
These results track with an Israeli study published in BMJ which, once again, showed an increase in infectivity post vaccination for a limited window.
Did you miss the 'compared to the Alpha variant' part?
It's saying that if you are vaccinated, the protection from infection is greater against the Alpha variant than against any of the other enumerated variants. That does not mean that vaccinated individuals are at greater risk from these variants than the unvaccinated (though the statements do not necessarily preclude that).
Then the authors should say vaccines provide lesser immunity against variants compared to alpha, vs "increased risk."
I reread it a few times and I think you're right. It's very badly worded, but I probably misread it. Just pulling the post altogether.
Did you remove the post OP? i cant click on the link, anymore..
I did. Study was incredibly poorly worded, and I think I misread its intent.
Good. ADE will sweep through the lab rats like a wildfire, and the coming war will be made much easier as a result.