I didn't say anything about minors doing stupid shit, if people didn't educated those kids in the right way, is not my problem... but that doesn't give adults the right to abuse them... adults should know what are the consequences of minors being involved in sexual activities and how those things affects them for the rest of their lives.
It's all about a safe key, don't talk shit about "50 years old that but 25 years old the other"... that is not argument and is a false dichotomy... when they reach 18, generally they already have an understending about consenting and what it means to have sex (good education is part of that)... when they are 14, even if they have desires and urges, they don't understand shit about almost anything... when the years pass, and they reach 18, they have a general idea about how shit works, even if they don't have real experience.
Again, a lot of minors want many things at that age, that doesn't mean it should be allowed to happen... that's why there's a safe key... and is 18 years old, is 18 because of the body and is because of average understanding of actions and consequences when they become young adults.
It has nothing to do with marriage, interest or any other shit... with that logic, having 9 years old wifes in some middle eastern shithole is ok because it's legal to marry them... even worse , under that logic... if a child becomes interested in gay sex or any kind of sex because they are being groomed, once you already allowed "interest" being a safe key to pedophiles... how are you going to stop them from arguing "the kid was interesed" when they get caught?... "hey, is legal to fuck that 14 years old over there because the kid was interest and is legal to marry them... well, the kid i just fucked was interesed, i would marry this kid now, and they want to marry me"... and there you go, pedos have a new free way to legally groom children and abuse them.
Do you approve of people less than 18 years old having sex with each other ? If you do then arguing with you is pointless since you aren't going change your view and have double standards instead.
If you don't then again, fair argument. Is your argument that nobody should have sex until they're 18, and that until they are 18 they should maybe be educated about it?
And why 18 specifically? It has no scientific meaning. No scientist said that people less than 18 are incapable to think about sex. That's why the age of consent is not 18 in most places but 16.
With marriage at least the parents know and every parent I know wouldn't allow it anyway if the age gap was too large. Also, when I say marriage, I mean no premarital sex which I think you got wrong.
I don't have double standard... yes... i don't think minors should have sex, but that doesn't change anything, because i already asnwered that, you just didn't read.
What part of "minors doing stupid shit" sound that i aprove that?
And again, read, ffs... 18 is about having safe key between minors and adults, and i already explained why... do you understand the concept of safe key?.
And just because is legal somewhere, it doens't mean is morally right, or the correct way to deal with the dangers of pedophilia.
"No premarital sex" means nothing when is legal to marry them while being minors.
I don't have double standard... yes... i don't think minors should have sex
Good. you're more reasonable than 98% of other people I've talked with.
What makes me think you approve of that is that you make it not look that bad. You say its not your problem minors do stupid things (having sex below the age of 18) but somehow its your problem for pedophiles doing stupid shit.
The reason why i said is not my problem, is because I can't force parents to educate their kids different, and i can't use the force of the state to indoctrinate children and push sexual agenda on them, that's against my values... not because i think that is not that bad... i can convince parents with my values on my community and country... that's all i do, so if those kids fuck up with other kids, and they commit mistakes between them, you shoudn't jailed them unless there's abuse or rape... because at that age, as i already said, they develop desires and urges, they commit mistakes, both of them are on that stage of their lives when they still don't think about emotional consequences, trauma, and the impact on their lives.
Pedophiles don't do "stupid shit", they fully understand what are they doing... as i said, a decent adult should know better (i already explained what adults understand about kids and teenagers, you are making me repeat this shit again, go back and read).. but we are talking about pedophiles, so they don't give a fuck about respecting kids, they are criminals.
There's a difference between two minors having desires, urges, and commiting mistakes or doing stupid shit between them, because they generally don't are able to understand the consequences of their actions... but adults, in this case pedophiles, they perceive and see those urges and they groom them into having sex with them, perfectly understanding the damage they can do to that minor.
The first, are two minors that don't undersand all the shit that could go wrong in their lives if they are irresponsable (a strong family unit with a good education is the best way to prepare those kids to not do stupid shit)... and the second, is an adult with a full understanging of consequences and damage he could cause, and still decides to have sex with that minor.
So, to not have a stupid blurry line in between.. the best idea until now, is to have a safe key with age... 18.
I didn't say anything about minors doing stupid shit, if people didn't educated those kids in the right way, is not my problem... but that doesn't give adults the right to abuse them... adults should know what are the consequences of minors being involved in sexual activities and how those things affects them for the rest of their lives.
It's all about a safe key, don't talk shit about "50 years old that but 25 years old the other"... that is not argument and is a false dichotomy... when they reach 18, generally they already have an understending about consenting and what it means to have sex (good education is part of that)... when they are 14, even if they have desires and urges, they don't understand shit about almost anything... when the years pass, and they reach 18, they have a general idea about how shit works, even if they don't have real experience.
Again, a lot of minors want many things at that age, that doesn't mean it should be allowed to happen... that's why there's a safe key... and is 18 years old, is 18 because of the body and is because of average understanding of actions and consequences when they become young adults.
It has nothing to do with marriage, interest or any other shit... with that logic, having 9 years old wifes in some middle eastern shithole is ok because it's legal to marry them... even worse , under that logic... if a child becomes interested in gay sex or any kind of sex because they are being groomed, once you already allowed "interest" being a safe key to pedophiles... how are you going to stop them from arguing "the kid was interesed" when they get caught?... "hey, is legal to fuck that 14 years old over there because the kid was interest and is legal to marry them... well, the kid i just fucked was interesed, i would marry this kid now, and they want to marry me"... and there you go, pedos have a new free way to legally groom children and abuse them.
Seriously, wtf is wrong with you?
You still didn't answer my question.
Do you approve of people less than 18 years old having sex with each other ? If you do then arguing with you is pointless since you aren't going change your view and have double standards instead.
If you don't then again, fair argument. Is your argument that nobody should have sex until they're 18, and that until they are 18 they should maybe be educated about it?
And why 18 specifically? It has no scientific meaning. No scientist said that people less than 18 are incapable to think about sex. That's why the age of consent is not 18 in most places but 16.
With marriage at least the parents know and every parent I know wouldn't allow it anyway if the age gap was too large. Also, when I say marriage, I mean no premarital sex which I think you got wrong.
I don't have double standard... yes... i don't think minors should have sex, but that doesn't change anything, because i already asnwered that, you just didn't read.
What part of "minors doing stupid shit" sound that i aprove that?
And again, read, ffs... 18 is about having safe key between minors and adults, and i already explained why... do you understand the concept of safe key?.
And just because is legal somewhere, it doens't mean is morally right, or the correct way to deal with the dangers of pedophilia.
"No premarital sex" means nothing when is legal to marry them while being minors.
Good. you're more reasonable than 98% of other people I've talked with.
What makes me think you approve of that is that you make it not look that bad. You say its not your problem minors do stupid things (having sex below the age of 18) but somehow its your problem for pedophiles doing stupid shit.
The reason why i said is not my problem, is because I can't force parents to educate their kids different, and i can't use the force of the state to indoctrinate children and push sexual agenda on them, that's against my values... not because i think that is not that bad... i can convince parents with my values on my community and country... that's all i do, so if those kids fuck up with other kids, and they commit mistakes between them, you shoudn't jailed them unless there's abuse or rape... because at that age, as i already said, they develop desires and urges, they commit mistakes, both of them are on that stage of their lives when they still don't think about emotional consequences, trauma, and the impact on their lives.
Pedophiles don't do "stupid shit", they fully understand what are they doing... as i said, a decent adult should know better (i already explained what adults understand about kids and teenagers, you are making me repeat this shit again, go back and read).. but we are talking about pedophiles, so they don't give a fuck about respecting kids, they are criminals.
There's a difference between two minors having desires, urges, and commiting mistakes or doing stupid shit between them, because they generally don't are able to understand the consequences of their actions... but adults, in this case pedophiles, they perceive and see those urges and they groom them into having sex with them, perfectly understanding the damage they can do to that minor.
The first, are two minors that don't undersand all the shit that could go wrong in their lives if they are irresponsable (a strong family unit with a good education is the best way to prepare those kids to not do stupid shit)... and the second, is an adult with a full understanging of consequences and damage he could cause, and still decides to have sex with that minor.
So, to not have a stupid blurry line in between.. the best idea until now, is to have a safe key with age... 18.
Why 18?... go back and read,
I can't make it more clear than that, dude.