Do you approve of people less than 18 years old having sex with each other ? If you do then arguing with you is pointless since you aren't going change your view and have double standards instead.
If you don't then again, fair argument. Is your argument that nobody should have sex until they're 18, and that until they are 18 they should maybe be educated about it?
And why 18 specifically? It has no scientific meaning. No scientist said that people less than 18 are incapable to think about sex. That's why the age of consent is not 18 in most places but 16.
With marriage at least the parents know and every parent I know wouldn't allow it anyway if the age gap was too large. Also, when I say marriage, I mean no premarital sex which I think you got wrong.
I don't have double standard... yes... i don't think minors should have sex, but that doesn't change anything, because i already asnwered that, you just didn't read.
What part of "minors doing stupid shit" sound that i aprove that?
And again, read, ffs... 18 is about having safe key between minors and adults, and i already explained why... do you understand the concept of safe key?.
And just because is legal somewhere, it doens't mean is morally right, or the correct way to deal with the dangers of pedophilia.
"No premarital sex" means nothing when is legal to marry them while being minors.
I don't have double standard... yes... i don't think minors should have sex
Good. you're more reasonable than 98% of other people I've talked with.
What makes me think you approve of that is that you make it not look that bad. You say its not your problem minors do stupid things (having sex below the age of 18) but somehow its your problem for pedophiles doing stupid shit.
The reason why i said is not my problem, is because I can't force parents to educate their kids different, and i can't use the force of the state to indoctrinate children and push sexual agenda on them, that's against my values... not because i think that is not that bad... i can convince parents with my values on my community and country... that's all i do, so if those kids fuck up with other kids, and they commit mistakes between them, you shoudn't jailed them unless there's abuse or rape... because at that age, as i already said, they develop desires and urges, they commit mistakes, both of them are on that stage of their lives when they still don't think about emotional consequences, trauma, and the impact on their lives.
Pedophiles don't do "stupid shit", they fully understand what are they doing... as i said, a decent adult should know better (i already explained what adults understand about kids and teenagers, you are making me repeat this shit again, go back and read).. but we are talking about pedophiles, so they don't give a fuck about respecting kids, they are criminals.
There's a difference between two minors having desires, urges, and commiting mistakes or doing stupid shit between them, because they generally don't are able to understand the consequences of their actions... but adults, in this case pedophiles, they perceive and see those urges and they groom them into having sex with them, perfectly understanding the damage they can do to that minor.
The first, are two minors that don't undersand all the shit that could go wrong in their lives if they are irresponsable (a strong family unit with a good education is the best way to prepare those kids to not do stupid shit)... and the second, is an adult with a full understanging of consequences and damage he could cause, and still decides to have sex with that minor.
So, to not have a stupid blurry line in between.. the best idea until now, is to have a safe key with age... 18.
I live in an area where I was taught sex education at school very early. These "minors" should absolutely know what they are doing. But since the government is really lax about it, most start having sex before the age of 18.
There is no difference between a minor having sex with another minor and a pedophile having sex with a minor. I oppose both, and think both should have the same punishment.
Why don't they teach kids to contain their urges? They also purposefully have an education system where boys and girls are in the same room. Of course they are going to have hormones. Then they are going to fuck and tell everybody about it and not a single thing will be done. I've had 13 year olds boast about having sex at school. And they very well knew the consequences about it. The girl even worried about if she was going to become pregnant. Since nothing was done about it, it encourages it.
Why can't we have an education system where boys and girls are taught in different schools? Simple. Because the government and the brainwashed people want minors to have sex with each other.
Your post also shows double standards.
Somehow we can't force people less than 18 not to have sex, but we must with pedophiles.
You say that the minors don't understand the consequences but I could argue that the pedos also don't too because they thought it would be fine since the minor agreed to it.
When mentioning minors fucking minors, you say its a mistake. But when mentioning pedophiles its a crime to humanity. It could also be a mistake and they could have learned about it the same way the minors do. The minor fucking another minor could also ruin a minor the same way a pedophile could ruin a minor.
I thought you would be more reasonable but clearly you're not.
I heard there was also a kid in the UK who got arrested at the age of 10 for watching child porn. But if he had sex instead he would be totally fine.
Solution:
*Treat and shame them both the same.
*Have education where boys and girls go to different schools.
*Make it illegal for minors to have sex below 18 and make it heard everywhere so people can't claim they didn't know.
*Police should give a fuck about it. When someone boasts about having sex at the age of 11, they should be investigated and jailed in some youth prison.
*Punishment should be severe so people will be afraid of doing it in the first place.
So yes, parents should be forced to teach their kids about not having sex before 18 and the law should punish the people that do.
When they don't get punished they are going to tell their children its normal and totally worth it and their children will do the same and it will continue. Whereas if they got jailed they would make sure their kids don't do the same and they will tell them about the consequences and how it isn't worth it.
Until they do, I find being a hebephile completely normal.
You still didn't answer my question.
Do you approve of people less than 18 years old having sex with each other ? If you do then arguing with you is pointless since you aren't going change your view and have double standards instead.
If you don't then again, fair argument. Is your argument that nobody should have sex until they're 18, and that until they are 18 they should maybe be educated about it?
And why 18 specifically? It has no scientific meaning. No scientist said that people less than 18 are incapable to think about sex. That's why the age of consent is not 18 in most places but 16.
With marriage at least the parents know and every parent I know wouldn't allow it anyway if the age gap was too large. Also, when I say marriage, I mean no premarital sex which I think you got wrong.
I don't have double standard... yes... i don't think minors should have sex, but that doesn't change anything, because i already asnwered that, you just didn't read.
What part of "minors doing stupid shit" sound that i aprove that?
And again, read, ffs... 18 is about having safe key between minors and adults, and i already explained why... do you understand the concept of safe key?.
And just because is legal somewhere, it doens't mean is morally right, or the correct way to deal with the dangers of pedophilia.
"No premarital sex" means nothing when is legal to marry them while being minors.
Good. you're more reasonable than 98% of other people I've talked with.
What makes me think you approve of that is that you make it not look that bad. You say its not your problem minors do stupid things (having sex below the age of 18) but somehow its your problem for pedophiles doing stupid shit.
The reason why i said is not my problem, is because I can't force parents to educate their kids different, and i can't use the force of the state to indoctrinate children and push sexual agenda on them, that's against my values... not because i think that is not that bad... i can convince parents with my values on my community and country... that's all i do, so if those kids fuck up with other kids, and they commit mistakes between them, you shoudn't jailed them unless there's abuse or rape... because at that age, as i already said, they develop desires and urges, they commit mistakes, both of them are on that stage of their lives when they still don't think about emotional consequences, trauma, and the impact on their lives.
Pedophiles don't do "stupid shit", they fully understand what are they doing... as i said, a decent adult should know better (i already explained what adults understand about kids and teenagers, you are making me repeat this shit again, go back and read).. but we are talking about pedophiles, so they don't give a fuck about respecting kids, they are criminals.
There's a difference between two minors having desires, urges, and commiting mistakes or doing stupid shit between them, because they generally don't are able to understand the consequences of their actions... but adults, in this case pedophiles, they perceive and see those urges and they groom them into having sex with them, perfectly understanding the damage they can do to that minor.
The first, are two minors that don't undersand all the shit that could go wrong in their lives if they are irresponsable (a strong family unit with a good education is the best way to prepare those kids to not do stupid shit)... and the second, is an adult with a full understanging of consequences and damage he could cause, and still decides to have sex with that minor.
So, to not have a stupid blurry line in between.. the best idea until now, is to have a safe key with age... 18.
Why 18?... go back and read,
I can't make it more clear than that, dude.
I disagree
I live in an area where I was taught sex education at school very early. These "minors" should absolutely know what they are doing. But since the government is really lax about it, most start having sex before the age of 18.
There is no difference between a minor having sex with another minor and a pedophile having sex with a minor. I oppose both, and think both should have the same punishment.
Why don't they teach kids to contain their urges? They also purposefully have an education system where boys and girls are in the same room. Of course they are going to have hormones. Then they are going to fuck and tell everybody about it and not a single thing will be done. I've had 13 year olds boast about having sex at school. And they very well knew the consequences about it. The girl even worried about if she was going to become pregnant. Since nothing was done about it, it encourages it.
Why can't we have an education system where boys and girls are taught in different schools? Simple. Because the government and the brainwashed people want minors to have sex with each other.
Your post also shows double standards.
Somehow we can't force people less than 18 not to have sex, but we must with pedophiles.
You say that the minors don't understand the consequences but I could argue that the pedos also don't too because they thought it would be fine since the minor agreed to it.
When mentioning minors fucking minors, you say its a mistake. But when mentioning pedophiles its a crime to humanity. It could also be a mistake and they could have learned about it the same way the minors do. The minor fucking another minor could also ruin a minor the same way a pedophile could ruin a minor.
I thought you would be more reasonable but clearly you're not.
I heard there was also a kid in the UK who got arrested at the age of 10 for watching child porn. But if he had sex instead he would be totally fine.
Solution:
*Treat and shame them both the same.
*Have education where boys and girls go to different schools.
*Make it illegal for minors to have sex below 18 and make it heard everywhere so people can't claim they didn't know.
*Police should give a fuck about it. When someone boasts about having sex at the age of 11, they should be investigated and jailed in some youth prison.
*Punishment should be severe so people will be afraid of doing it in the first place.
So yes, parents should be forced to teach their kids about not having sex before 18 and the law should punish the people that do.
When they don't get punished they are going to tell their children its normal and totally worth it and their children will do the same and it will continue. Whereas if they got jailed they would make sure their kids don't do the same and they will tell them about the consequences and how it isn't worth it.
Until they do, I find being a hebephile completely normal.