Two of them simply tried to detain a moronic burglar who’d been robbing their neighbour hood and one was simply there and recorded the moron grabbing a shotgun and getting himself shot. Now they all get to spend the rest of their life in prison. The blacks are given free reign to commit every evil there is while whites are treated like subhumans by the nation they built. This nation is doomed and seems to deserve that doom.
You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread.
Comments (172)
sorted by:
This might be pedantic, but I think detaining him would qualify as a "citizen's arrest".
That's the problem. The unlawful detention is a felony. Hence, Arbery's death is Felony Murder.
I actually agree with this. This was basically Colin Noir's position. Which could be reduced to: "If two guys in a truck drive past me, set up a road block, and jump out with guns: I'm dumping rounds on them."
From what the McMichaels were saying, it sounds like they pointed guns at Arbery, and then Arbery attacked them. That attack could absolutely be taken as self-defense... which is where my unease in the situation gets pretty bad. That's a horrifically stupid decision for Arbery that cost him his life, but the attack would have legal. If it were me, and some dude started yelling for me to stop, and pointed a shotgun at me? Then I'd pull a Colin Noir and just start blasting.
Yep I would have declared Arbery innocent if he had dumped rounds.
The citizen's arrest thing is odd. There was every evidence that it was and apparently no one challenged that except to say that the McMichaels didn't announce themselves. Yet the court apparently ruled it was not such an arrest. I've yet to see an explanation for that and I looked.
Yeah, I'm not really clear on it either. The state doesn't want people policing their own communities for the most part, so this kind of stuff gets left purposely vague.
To play devils advocate: Arbery was unarmed. So while it very much would have been legally self defense trying to do something to the McMichaels, it seems extremely reckless to throw yourself at an armed individual trying to steal their weapon in an attempt to defend yourself. Because unless you have reason to believe they are just going to kill you anyway, the better option would be to surrender and live until you see a time to escape.
That said though, I dont have particular beef with either side here. Everything I had heard at the time made it sound like a situation where no one was in the right, so I more or less declared "a pox on both your houses!" months ago, and from what I have heard of the trial that did little to clear up that issue.
Oh no, it's retarded. Especially when the other guy has a fucking shotgun.
That's one of the things that kinda convinces me that Arbery was a genuine bad guy: he had a predator drive. He could have run into the woods at any time, but instead, he decided that he was gonna take the risk to (very likely) kill both of the McMichaels. By aggressing on them, he was starting an entangled gunfight that he could only win if he killed both of them. And he made that decision while he was 30-50 feet from the truck. He saw a threat, and instead of avoiding it, he engaged it. That's not normal human behavior unless you're a cop, military, or a first responded. You have to be trained to do that. Since he wasn't any of those things, he was not a regular civilian. He was a criminal who's probably bluffed people with force before.
I was on the McMichaels' side more until I heard them talking, and it I can't help but think, "wow, you were basically asking for shit to go wrong."