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its jus' a like is-is!! (archive.md)
posted 4 years ago by BidenLikesMiners 4 years ago by BidenLikesMiners +141 / -0
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– Steampunk_Moustache 34 points 4 years ago +34 / -0

That's not their view at all. That's their stated view, but it's not what they actually believe.

It's simply that they will say ANYTHING to attack you.

They have NO principles. Power is the goal and there is nothing else to them. It sounds reductionist as hell, but the more I observe them, the more undeniable it becomes that they really do not believe anything at all other than that they want to be on top of you.

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– Barndoorbanjo 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

This has been my exact conclusion as well. And it hasn't been an easy one to reach. These people are bad actors. They're not arguing in good faith. It's like you said, this is all a power game for them. Truth, justice, honesty, they do not believe in these ideas. They only use them in so far as it will deliver them power. When you have an argument with one of these people they have no interest in coming to an objective truth. They only care about winning. Even if the ideology that they are winning for is bringing hell on Earth.

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– jrbelmont 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

It IS what they actually believe, but the way "belief" works for them is different than for all of us. When we say we believe something it means we have been convinced of a given idea and now have a commitment to it, so it's going to take serious evidence and argument to change our minds. There's an inertia to accepting and changing a belief, and we maintain a historical record of our beliefs as well as a certain degree of honesty about our level of confidence in them.

One of us can say "I'm pretty certain of XYZ, I used to believe ABC but I was on the fence and I saw evidence that changed my mind".

They can't do that. Everything they say they genuinely 100% belief as if it were the word of god... at that moment. And in the next moment they will genuinely 100% believe the next thing as if it were the word of god, even if it's completely contradictory with what they just said.

If that sounds like 1984 it's because that's exactly what this is. They "believe" whatever they're required to believe at any given moment, will insist they have never said or believed otherwise, and will change that belief at the drop of a hat. They're completely capable of believing two totally contradictory things at the same time, and demonstrating that publicly isn't a display of hypocrisy in their world but a display of loyalty and power.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

That's just redefining the meaning of the word 'belief'.

Ultimately, I know they don't believe anything they say, because they had to invent a word to describe the concept of 'doing things that align with that you believe in' - "praxis".

Nobody else on the face of the earth needs a word to describe this action, because it's just fucking implicit with the very concept of belief. People have words to describe the opposite - 'hypocrisy', a westerner would say. 'Shirk' a muslim would say.

But only the marxist has a word for living by beliefs he claims to hold. Only the marxist has need for such a word.

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– BidenLikesMiners [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Its sociopolitical power, and its whats ruining our politics and news, all at once. Until we can get rid of the biased newsmedia, and radicalizing social media/search engines, and teach people how to think freely, it will never get better. And take on the tech oligarchs who think they know what's best for the whole country, too.

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– ItsOkayToBeWight 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This clearly describes what is happening, but it's purely suicidal. Beyond just destroying the tax pigs that fund everything they hold dear. Because they have no principles there is no guarantee that any of them won't be thrown under the bus tomorrow for being in the way. It's a wonder they have any supporters when they're so transparent about how expendable anyone is.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It's a wonder they have any supporters when they're so transparent about how expendable anyone is.

They all think it will never be them. They all think their views will always be in alignment with the party. That the party will never say anything that makes the very core of their being recoil and be unable to indulge. They can't imagine themselves sitting there, reading the latest party manifesto, their soul screaming 'No, this is wrong'.

They all think they're going to be imposing their will on others. They all think they'll have power. It's their wildest fantasy, so much so that when one of them dies, they say "Rest in Power" instead of rest in peace.

You just want to be left the hell alone. They want the power to violate you. That's their heaven.

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